I agree that the most surprising thing about the 2002 Olympics was that Kwan and Slutskaya skated well below their standard. I remember thinking that Sarah Hughes gave a great bronze medal performance right after she had skated in SLC thinking that Kwan and Slutskaya were going to duke it out a la 2001 Worlds.
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Thanks so much for posting those, but I must say that about halfway through all those toe axels started to make me itchy. So much bad technique over and over again makes me uncomfortable.
I'd have to go back to the protocols, but compared to the mistakes in Torino, Sasha Cohen's mistakes in the Calgary Worlds LP were more costly (in points) than at the Olympics.
I think 3F+COMBO might have not even existed back then if you didn't even attempt a combination for the repeated triple attempt (so perhaps invalid element?). There was also an omission of the 3 salchow at the back end of the 3-3 sequence. Considering there were two other errors in the program, I'm thinking that Sasha could have gotten away with 1-2 errors and still won Worlds that year....but she didn't.
Great video. Kimmie also landed a 3z/3t at junior worlds on 04 and I'm sure the video is in fsvids. I remember seeing three videos of Kimmie practicing 3f/3r. One was a local news special where the reporter called it "the hardest jump in the WORLD!" :lol They also showed a clip of her practicing it at a pro event (or maybe SOI) during a fluff piece. You can also see a faulty attempt on the NBC feed in the warm-up before her LP at Nationals. These were all in the 07/08 season.
All of this talk about jumps reminded me of something I did about two years ago...
It was a general assumption that Sasha Cohen never got through a major competition without at least one mistake. I decided to find some solid facts on that once and for all. I compiled a list of all of Sasha's jumps at major competitions (ie. nationals, worlds, olympics) and started crunching some numbers. I did percentages on her best jump, worst jumps, how often she made mistakes and where the first one usually occurred. I was right about some stuff but was surprised with some of the stuff I found.
It was a long post so I won't re-post the whole thing, but you can check it out here: http://mkforum.net/forum/showthread.php?22756-Sasha-Cohen-s-Jump-Stats-Just-the-Facts...&highlight=
It took me several days of watching videos, organizing data and then crunching it all down...but I gotta admit, it was a lot of fun. I said I'd do other skaters statistics at some point once I find the time.
Burritos are very good...see what I mean?
That's amazing, Kwanatic. Thank you for taking the time to do that. Very impressive. It's funny how Cohen never skated a clean competition in a major, but averaged 5 triples throughout. It's no wonder she always made the podium. Her 3toe I think was her worst jump. She had the tendency to overrotate it, and sometimes her falls on it were spectacular.
Would have been interesting to include Sasha's 2010 FS... no doubt the worst ever. But why kick her when she's down? A couple things I find amazing 1) she never did a clean LP - so her reputation is correct; and 2) she never popped - at least she always tried to rotate, even if there was a fall or one of her many wonky, creative two-foot landings.
Which reminds me of a story... I went to see my doctor and told her I was a skater. She said "Ah, you know who I like? That Sasha girl. But her problem is she's too flexible, like Gumby. Her legs just split instead of holding up her landings."
Here's my video with her attempts at triple-triples and quad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiHedeIKkyw
I'll upload new version because I found two new 3Lz+3T's: Worlds 2002 and Trophee Lalique 2002.
I dunno, for some reason I always found Cohen to be overrated.
She had some fire and spark when she was younger but that disappeared and she always seemed tentative and timid. Sort of like how Nagasu is now.
One thing about Sasha though is when she made a mistake in the LP she kept fighting and landing her jumps and that's why she was on so many podiums. Mirai needs to watch some clips of Sasha and see that you don 't quit when you make a mistake.
Well, Nagasu is that way when she skates not to lose. She CAN be a great skater as we saw at 2010 Nats and Olys. Too bad she has not risen to that level of competitiveness since...