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    they just named sarah because of ogm,
    not so sure the usfsa would want michelle nominated. can't we nominate her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    they just named sarah because of ogm,
    not so sure the usfsa would want michelle nominated. can't we nominate her.
    A lot of people are in the hall of fame because they are Olympic Gold Medalists...so not sure why you are singling out Sarah?

    Why wouldn't the USFSA want her nominated?

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    I have not noticed that there has been any official announcement about Kwan´s retirement. The last I heard she wanted to keep her options open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    they just named sarah because of ogm,
    not so sure the usfsa would want michelle nominated. can't we nominate her.
    Ok I seriously doubt it's because USFS doesn't want Kwan in the HOF. Kwan is one of the greatest skaters of all time even with no OGM. She has 9 USN titles and 5 world titles, whereas Hughes has ZERO of either. Very deserving of Hall of Fame. My guess is that Sarah was inducted sooner because she perhaps told USFS she was retired but didn't make a public statement? Sarah strikes me as the type for continually wanting recognition for that one moment (still doesn't have a job?) whereas Michelle has been constantly in school/working for the government/doing her own thing and making an official retirement notice just so she can get Hall of Fame probably isn't as important to her.

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    Sarah officially retired in 2003. You can find the record from Wikipedia. Michelle never announces retirement, her name was even shown on USOC's website as Team USA 2010 Olympic hopefuls, and IIRC, she got sponsorship from AT&T in 2009-2010 for the same reason.

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    totally understandable athena
    i didn't make myself clear.
    i thought sarah was nominated earlier than normal. she competed 2003, and was nominated in 2009 . she was 2nd at nationals, 6th at worlds in 2003. so if you put in 5 years after last skate. sarah didn't officially retired more like walked away . she was nominated in 2009.-but got in 2010 if that is the case it only 5 years not 7,. i feel michelle should be in last year, if not this year.-no later than next year. but sorry i can't wait till 2013 for her to get in.
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    It's 5 years. All of the 2011 inductees were from the 1961 team that was killed in the plane crash (50th anniversary/ release of Rise) so none of the younger skaters eligible for 2011 would have been included.

    The U.S. Figure Skating Hall of Fame was established in 1976 to honor individuals who have made outstanding contributions to the sport of figure skating in the United States. Nominees may be inducted for accomplishments as competitors, coaches or other significant contributions. To be considered, a competitive nominee must be retired from eligible skating for at least five years. Nominations for the U.S Hall of Fame are accepted from members of the skating community and the general public. After nominations are received, formal ballots are circulated to the U.S. Hall of Fame electors, who make the final selection for induction. A two-thirds approval is required for induction. Inductions for the U.S. Hall of Fame are conducted in conjunction with the annual U.S. Championships.

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    For some reason I doubt Michelle is loosing sleep over this

    Are you kidding? Michelle is US figure skating.
    (for my generation at least).

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    I agree that Michelle isn't losing any sleep over this. IMO, the USFS should either name her to the HoF or explain why she isn't eligible this year and what has to be done (i.e., whether the listing on the website means she won't be eligible until ___, or whether a formal announcement of her retirement is needed).

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    Because last season they only selected those who died in the '61 crash, I think that they Kwan was overlooked. I think it makes sense for her to be inducted in San Jose. I think that Rudy Galindo should have a strong shot, too. Todd Eldredge? Michael Weiss? Ina/Zimmerman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayar View Post
    Because last season they only selected those who died in the '61 crash, I think that they Kwan was overlooked. I think it makes sense for her to be inducted in San Jose. I think that Rudy Galindo should have a strong shot, too. Todd Eldredge? Michael Weiss? Ina/Zimmerman?
    Todd Eldredge is already there -- inducted in 2008. I think San Jose Nationals would be especially meaningful for Rudy if he were selected -- but also for Michelle. If they accept nominations from the general public, then those who want to do so, should send them in. Of course, I have no idea when they vote or when the deadline for submitting nominations is. Their site is confusing for me to find information.

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    Rudy would have a great shot, having been a both Pairs and Singles National Champion.

    I think Kwan is planning on retiring after Sochi

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardtoob View Post
    Rudy would have a great shot, having been a both Pairs and Singles National Champion.
    Is being a national champion (plus a World bronze medalist) enough merit for being selected to HoF??? In my opinion already Eldredge was a rather strange selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    In my opinion already Eldredge was a rather strange selection.
    He was US Novice, Junior and Senior Champion plus World Junior and Senior Champion, plus Skate America Champion, etc., etc. Not so strange to be selected I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emason View Post
    He was US Novice, Junior and Senior Champion plus World Junior and Senior Champion, plus Skate America Champion, etc., etc. Not so strange to be selected I think.
    Not even close to strange. For the US Hall of Fame, he's a six time national senior champion -- I'm not sure if any other guy has gotten close to that since the end of figures, and he competed successfully both before and after figures were eliminated, which not all that many folks managed to do. His spins were among the best of his era, and he continued to put great intensity into them even when it seemed that judges didn't much care about form or speed of spins. He first competed as a senior in 87-88 (Brian Boitano's era) and was US Champion and still competing at high levels in 2002, which is a tremendous career by anyone's standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatingfan5 View Post
    Todd Eldredge is already there -- inducted in 2008. I think San Jose Nationals would be especially meaningful for Rudy if he were selected -- but also for Michelle. If they accept nominations from the general public, then those who want to do so, should send them in. Of course, I have no idea when they vote or when the deadline for submitting nominations is. Their site is confusing for me to find information.
    Quote Originally Posted by emason View Post
    He was US Novice, Junior and Senior Champion plus World Junior and Senior Champion, plus Skate America Champion, etc., etc. Not so strange to be selected I think.
    Thanks! I don't think it's a strange choice, either!

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    Inducting Eldredge (a six-time National champion) makes at least as much sense as inducting someone who is a zero-time National Champion but got lucky at the Olympics one night.
    Last edited by Cheylana; 08-11-2011 at 07:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emason View Post
    He was US Novice, Junior and Senior Champion plus World Junior and Senior Champion, plus Skate America Champion, etc., etc. Not so strange to be selected I think.
    But no medal at all from the Olympics, although he had a gold and other medals from Worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    But no medal at all from the Olympics, although he had a gold and other medals from Worlds.
    Why should that make Todd's selection to the United States Skating HoF questionable? As others have posted, he won senior U.S. nationals six times (and was on the World podium several times, including the top step once). I guess if there were a Canadian Skating HoF (I don't know, perhaps there is), then by your criteria Kurt Browning would be deemed a dubious choice as well, since he, too, has not a single Olympic medal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    But no medal at all from the Olympics, although he had a gold and other medals from Worlds.
    Kurt Browning. Janet Lynn. Toller Cranston. I think they're all in the Hall of Fame, despite none of them having an Olympic medal. There really are other competitions that count.

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