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It's a fun program. I enjoyed it.
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ETA: U.S. Figure Skating's definition of a "twizzle"
Twizzle (Twz): A traveling turn on one foot with one or more rotations,
which is quickly rotated with a continuous (uninterrupted) action. The weight
remains on the skating foot with the free foot in any position during the turn,
and then placed beside the skating foot to skate the next step. A series of checked
three-turns is not acceptable, as this does not constitute a continuous action. If
the traveling action stops during the execution, the twizzle becomes a solo spin
(pirouette). The four different types of entry edges for twizzles are: (1) forward
inside (FI); (2) forward outside (FO); (3) backward inside (BI); (4) backward
Some guidelines given in judge's training to look for in twizzles:
Standards/expectations (this is on the Intermediate Moves in the Field test in the U.S.): static skating leg/knee (either bent or straight) during twizzle, skated with continuous flow, strong core and body alignment. Errors include lack of flow, double three-turn action, and scraped or skidded turns.
Last edited by RFOS; 12-03-2011 at 04:18 AM.
The side leg position has been accepted by the tech panels for several years now.
Accepting lots of things as twizzles seems to be a caregiver from 6.0 -- I remember Rosaleen explaining the difference to me at Dortmund Worlds in 2004 -- where the system addresses it in theory, like flutzing, but doesn't address it without a crackdown of sorts. Usually that's meant giving it to the tech panel, but here it's the panel accepting the element and assigning feature levels, since a more difficult position than passe.
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They're good. There's no question. They seem to have come together really well, and Poirier already has more connection with Gilles than he ever had with Crone. It's the programs that don't really do it for me. The SD was fine, but nothing special. And the FD really bothered me, especially because I was expecting to really like it. I liked the elements, and thought the lifts positions were really nice. The transitional movements seemed really disjointed to me though. It looked like they were doing a set of quirky movements one after the other just for the sake of being quirky. They didn't really flow together, nor match the music as well as I would have hoped. It almost seemed that they were trying too hard to be different. Also, if you're going to go quirky, you have to go all out with the facial expressions, which I didn't think they did. That's totally understandable, though, given how new they are. Hopefully they can grow on me, because they certainly have potential.
Disjointed is Dean's style. The lady doing wavy arm movements is another thing he beats to death.
Gilles & Poirier said this is a circus theme. Dean's liked circus themes for years. And mechanical toy-type movement. Circus was a group number theme he did for SOI fifteen years ago in the 1990s.
Dean a great figure skater along with Jayne Torvill but he's no choreographic genius. His choreography career is built on Bolero which is almost 30 years ago, charisma, his maestro image and legendary name. I liked his program for A&P but that's kind of rare. He's not more original than anyone else doing skating choreography.
G/P's FD to a certain extent reminded me of the number La Valz Dean choreographed for Lipinski and Browning some years ago, funny and adorable the Dean way. For what it's worth, I liked Imagination. That there is room for improvement...yes, there is, but I think the program suits Gilles and Poirier well.
Piper Gilles and Paul have a spark and excitement that makes watching them a pleasure. As Piper grows technically this team will become a force to be reckoned within Ice Dancing.
There is nothing more captivating in this world than a woman's form gracing the ice in skating boots. It's simply sensational!
I'm chuckling at this. I guess it does take all kinds. Maybe you had to be there watching in the 1980s, seeing what everyone else was skating to and comparing what T&D did.
I believe Mack & Mabel stands up to the passage of time; also Barnum, 1984 Paso Original Set Pattern, 1994 Olympic Rumba, OSP Blues to Summertime, Encounters, Oscar Tango, and Take Five, are just a few examples of really effective, original choreography.
And this rock and roll OSP is THE great rock and roll program:
As a choreographer for others, his Funny Girl short dance for Gilles & Summersett--actually, several of their dances, Missing for the Duschenays and I liked Eleanor Rigby for Paul and Vanessa. At the beginning of the season it was very effective. This dance for Paul and Piper shows their charming personalities and is something to keep building on.
Actually, I found that it was Paul who had no connection. I found her to be expressive, not in an over the top way but with interest. It seemed to me, that she tried to draw Paul in and he would not look at her regardless of how close they were to one another. In many cases, he looked like he was skating by himself.
And unlike what some posters are saying, I do not think the lack of connection was always the case. They did not get as far as they did without something between them.
WOW, I am really impressed with Piper and Paul! Already, I find Gilles/Poirier more interesting than any other Canadian ice dance team. For being together only a short period of time, they have wonderful chemistry and terrific speed. They really attack their elements and they are gelling so well. I'm so happy for them! Wishing them the best for Nationals!
I found them quite promising , and their strengths are their strengths....but they were egregiously overmarked at this event.
There's no use getting ready for some kind of anointing..international judges would never have given them that score. It will be much easier to assess them a year from now.
I don't know whether they had a good 'connection' or not, but they appeared to work very well together for a long time (over a decade) and they used to describe each other as being like brother and sister.
Just saw the fd and I adored it, and I also found myself smiling throughout it. Plus the music really does it for me.