If you could have a rule created, what would it be.

[essence_of_soy]

We have the Zayak rule (for repeating jumps), the Boitano rule (for professionals wasnting re-instatement), and the Witt rule (for costume violations).

What rule would you like created, and what would the penalty be.

I know I'm stealing Manleywoman's thunder here, so she may have naming rights.

But for overuse of Carmen, there should be a 25 point deduction in PCS, as well as being forced to watch dvds of every juvenile lady who has ever skated to "The Lonely Goatherd".

[Kelvster]

a rule to reward skaters for

attempting the 5 different triples (for ladies) and 6 different triples (for men)

i miss the good ol' days of the 6.0 system where you see ladies doing a classic, conservative ladies programme consisting of e.g.

3lutz-2toe,
3flip,
double axel.
Pause
====
Slow music begins
spiral sequence
Wind up to a 3loop
3sal
====
Fast music begins again
3toe-2toe
step sequence
2axel
====

[blue_idealist]

a rule to reward skaters for

attempting the 5 different triples (for ladies) and 6 different triples (for men)

i miss the good ol' days of the 6.0 system where you see ladies doing a classic, conservative ladies programme consisting of e.g.

3lutz-2toe,
3flip,
double axel.
Pause
====
Slow music begins
spiral sequence
Wind up to a 3loop
3sal
====
Fast music begins again
3toe-2toe
step sequence
2axel
====

YES to the 5 and 6 different triples thing!!

[BigB08822]

One spin with no change of position, that would focus on speed, centering and how well you get into the position you chose.

I agree with awarding points for skaters who complete 5 different triples (women) or 6 different triples (men).

Multiplying combinations by a factor, with more for the loop on the end than the toe.

Allowing judges to decide downgrades. If a majority think a jump is downgraded then downgrade it, I hate super slow mo close up video being used and one or two people so often controlling outcomes.

[essence_of_soy]

a rule to reward skaters for

attempting the 5 different triples (for ladies) and 6 different triples (for men)

i miss the good ol' days of the 6.0 system where you see ladies doing a classic, conservative ladies programme consisting of e.g.

3lutz-2toe,
3flip,
double axel.
Pause
====
Slow music begins
spiral sequence
Wind up to a 3loop
3sal
====
Fast music begins again
3toe-2toe
step sequence
2axel
====

*cough* Bauil *cough*

[PDilemma]

One spin with no change of position, that would focus on speed, centering and how well you get into the position you chose.

This is mine!

[BigB08822]

This is mine!

Sorry, if I read that from you before then it buried somehow in my subconscious because it just came to me.

[just tuned in]

My rule would be that the skater's music cannot have applause or cheering sounds built into the soundtrack. (When Sasha Cohen's "Dark Eyes" did that, I, sitting at home, thought it was the audience cheering... but no.)

[misskarne]

a rule to reward skaters for

attempting the 5 different triples (for ladies) and 6 different triples (for men)

Yes yes yes! I like this one! But I'd like add an extra bonus for ladies who do all 6 triples.

One spin with no change of position, that would focus on speed, centering and how well you get into the position you chose.

I like this one, too. I miss the old days where you had to hold one spin position for eight revolutions. I loved watching Plushy's camel when he did that. But now of course he has to change the position after like one revolution to get the points. I think they've put too much emphasis on the change positions.

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Spiral sequence for the men! Some of them have really nice spirals that they never use.

[sk8er1964]

My rule is that skaters get a 50 point bonus for actually skating to the music instead of over it.

[skfan]

no more blade grabbing, period. blade grabbing is fugly on death spirals and butt ugly on 95% of single skaters who drop their legs rather than extend the leg towards the hand that grabs the blades. most can't do a blade grab spin half as beautiful as rory flack's anyway. and maybe without blade grabs there would be an end to the epidemic of gloves.

[sk8er1964]

^ Can I have this rule too, please?

[screech]

Spiral sequence for the men! Some of them have really nice spirals that they never use.

I think that men have had the option of doing a spiral sequence (at least they did until a few years ago). I know Jeff Buttle did one in his LPs in his early years of success. But I wish Shawn Sawyer would have.

I don't necessarily think they need to do spiral sequences, but at the very least a sequence of field moves should be required (with no more than 1 spiral included). I mean, they could do pivots and hydroblading if they wanted, but some sequence of field moves should be required.

[skfan]

^ Can I have this rule too, please?

please join! the more the merrier.

maybe some day we'll reach critical mass and there'll be fewer eyesore blade grabs? or maybe the rule change that cut down the # of dog-at-hydrant ladies spirals have falsely raised my hopes

[jlai]

Have a rule on pair footwork that needs to be unison skating during most of the sequence.

[julieann]

No more tights over the boots unless you are a synchro team.

[Skate Talker]

This is a very good idea for a topic. I just hope it isn't overtaken by facetious replies.

I will have to think on this a bit to see what I come up with but so far am loving the blade-grab out the window movement, especially if it leads to less gloves being worn. Unfortunately it seems to me that the men are the bigger offenders here but few of them can even use the blade-grab as an excuse for it.

I also like the idea of the bonus for completing the complete package of triples, and adding extra points to combinations above the individual values of the two jumps performed.

The only idea that comes quickly to mind is that I would penalize the lifts that some Pairs teams do that are undoubtedly difficult but are just so very very ugly to look at. Imho the penalty can taken off choreography or even performance because for me they really break the mood of the skate, don't go with the music, etc.

I would also like to ban the stomach-cramp dance lift. That's the one where the lady scrunches up over the man's arm in the rotational lift, hanging there all contorted as if in pain. One year I remember seeing this same lift in 4 or 5 dances in a row

[foreverkwanfan]

I agree with all of these and will add:

No tights over boots! Period, No exceptions!!

and although I enjoy Sasha's skating, this one move always bugged me, I would ban it if I had such powers:
http://www.skateygirl.com/nat2003/Sr...r68n29_jpg.jpg

But more seriously, I would like to see points given for a sustained spiral as opposed to a spiral sequence where the spiral position is changed 2-3 times.
A sustained spiral, one position, that is held, without wobbling from one end of the ice to the other should be given more points. IMHO

[Ozzisk8tr]

I think there should be a rule where if the mans butt looks pleasing to ones eye they must be made to wear illusion fabric pants at some stage (ponsero anyone?). The bonus could be they take me out to dinner that night. Seriously though, I wish they would drop the three jump combo rule and allow them to do more.

[Spazactaz]

just curious.... for professionals wanting re-instatement, what IS the rule?