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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayana_mnk View Post
    Ivan Dinev of Bulgaria is someone no one has mentioned. I've always thought he had some fairly creative programs.
    Igor Paskevitch was also a very creative skater.
    And I loved Sebastien Britten.

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    Rudy Galindo
    Torvill and Dean and also The Duchesnays
    Dan Hollander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefcake View Post
    to which I'd nominate Dan Hollander for pledgeship.
    Dan Hollander was the Ryan Bradley of the 1990s. Except a million times more annoying.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    I find Kerrs quite creative. And Khokhlova-Novitsky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allezfred View Post
    Dan Hollander was the Ryan Bradley of the 1990s. Except a million times more annoying.
    I have met both of them, there is no way Dan is more annoying than Ryan. For one thing, Dan appears to have no ego.

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    Stanick Jeanette is missed.

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    This is the most creative competition program I have ever seen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAMObOa1cZk

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    I loved Olga Markova and Ilia Klimkin too much LOL
    The mind of the performer is a very strange thing.
    ~James Galway

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinakt View Post
    Is Stephane Lambiel the elephant in the room nobody is talking about? He is definitely very creative in his own right, regardless of Salome's imput.
    Browning, as well.
    Stephane is too obvious, people are trying to come up with more original choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by falling_dance View Post
    I would pay to see her in a show before many Olympic champions. She was born to perform.

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    Lucindah Ruh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taf2002 View Post
    I have met both of them, there is no way Dan is more annoying than Ryan. For one thing, Dan appears to have no ego.
    I meant purely in terms of their skating programmes. I'm sure they are both lovely people. Or not as the case may be.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

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    Dmitri Dmitrenko usually had very unique programs. He's gone into coaching and choreography but unfortunately hasn't produced any interesting work for other skaters, yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by falling_dance View Post
    On the most interesting programs I've seen in skating. She's missed too!

    Quote Originally Posted by aliceanne View Post
    This is the most creative competition program I have ever seen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAMObOa1cZk
    Ughhhhh...

    The whole program is skated counter-clockwise. They're just skating around the rink and around the rink and around the rink.

    There is a lot of flailing but no actual skating ability is showed.

    I can totally understand why they were being dumped by the judges and no, not because they skated outside the box.

    I remember seeing some of their programs that I liked in the past but this was just awful. But then, most of pre-COP skating seems to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrellH View Post
    Lucindah Ruh?
    Nothing interesting about her skating, other than her spins.

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    Ivan Dinev and Stannick Jeannette! I loved Stannick´s Le Petit Prince program 2003. IIRC, the choreography was by Gwendal Peizerat.:ap1
    Dinev was : many times, he should have had at least one EM medal. He was sportive and creative same time, and a very nice guy. He also had some other assets

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    Creativity is subjective (though I do recognize that it is possible for there to be standards that most people may agree on) and can be defined beyond technical difficulty, transitions, and the COP, as difficult as that may be to grasp.

    Sometimes the most simple things can be the most creative.
    "Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." - Ambrose Bierce

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIETgrlTerifa View Post

    Sometimes the most simple things can be the most creative.
    There is great wisdom in those words.

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    Exactly! Like Lucinda Ruh's spins

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIETgrlTerifa View Post
    Creativity is subjective (though I do recognize that it is possible for there to be standards that most people may agree on) and can be defined beyond technical difficulty, transitions, and the COP, as difficult as that may be to grasp.
    Yes. Are skaters (or their choreographers) being creative with the way they use their blades?

    Or with the way they use the rest of their bodies above the blades?

    Or with the kinds of images they choose to present in terms of music choice and costumes aside from the skating itself?

    If you're looking for creativity in one or two of the above, if you do find it you might forgive the skater being pretty conservative in the other area(s). Or if you don't find it where you're looking, you might miss other areas where the skater is breaking new ground.

    Of course, moves and style choices that were creative when the first skater performed them later become ho-hum years later after many followers have jumped on the bandwagon.

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    Although I've only ever seen it once, Ilia's routine that used the bowler hat amazed me at the time of seeing it. The use of blade work way before cop was introduced was incredible. Forgive me for not remembering it, but I'm sure others will fill in the blanks, and possibly post a link. For me, that was creative.
    I guess the hard thing for a lot of people to accept is why God would allow me to go running through their yards, yelling and spinning around.


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    Dinev yes how did you remember him

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