Cesario has much higher jumps, better spins, better lines, better choreographed programs, better lines, more power in her skating. Do I need to go on?
Because Miyahara is a very competent jumper, the judges gave her high points for everything else when, at the moment, all that she is is a jumping bean.
In the FS she at least tried to skate to the music, at least part of the time.
But the program seemed to have no concept whatsoever and she just moved her arms randomly in a chaotic and pointless fashion that made Plushenko look sophisticated.
Her posture and lines were not good and it just all looked like a complete car crash and made me wish, she just skated and jumped and spared us that.
Axis of Evil = Washington + New York? or Seoul?
Anyway, I don't think the patriot Ziggy's comment is not persuasive at all. You must be believing you're much more knowledgeable than the judges. An "overall" skater won't be staying junior after 18 y/o in the first place. Only overall mediocre skaters would.
Last edited by NMURA; 09-22-2011 at 01:25 AM.
Please be sure about what you post before you make assumptions about nationalities of individuals (and was the additional of the "Seoul" comment really necessary?). Thank you.
"Skating fans are not a patient bunch." Dragonlady
1) The way the current judging system works, means that the judges play safe. Because if they are out of line, there are repercussions.
2) The way the human mind works means that we focus on the whole and not the constituent parts. The problem is, IJS in constructed exactly in the opposite fashion. It requires the judges to focus on particular details IN ISOLATION.
And then there is another related psychological mechanism, anchoring. If I give a skater a high mark for something, it automatically reduces my range. My other marks will be close to that mark.
And then there is a third related psychological mechanism (very closely linked to the one above). We want to be consistent. If we say A, we want to say B.
Of course, humans are not machines. I am sure that if judges received appropriate psychological training regarding the above and if they became aware of those mechanisms, they would be able to control them.
But ISU doesn't seem to notice or acknowledge this problem, therefore nothing is being done to remedy it.
3) I generally pay loads of attention to detail and I am much more nitpicky than the average person. I know that.
Skaters might choose to remain Junior for loads of different reasons.
I think I would rather be American than Polish, actually.
But then the grass is always greener...
On a more serious note, I very deeply despise the concepts of nationalism, patriotism, etc. and I cheer for all skaters (especially ones from nations were skating isn't developed and who have no political backing) and I couldn't care less where a skater is from, as long as they are good and/or interesting.
(There are of course are some Polish skaters that I support like crazy but it's because I know/like/respect/etc. them and not just because they are Polish)
Last edited by Ziggy; 09-22-2011 at 01:54 AM.
Shoji OTOH had a ratified 3-3, a 2-3, beautiful choreography and musical interpretation, and no visible errors. I completely disagreed with the judging of that competition and I really think Shoji wuzrobbed. She should have won, if only slightly.
I agree that Cesario got lowballed in this competition, particularly in the PCS, as is customary when it comes to holding skaters down. I do like Miyahara and think that she has a certain spark about her. She's rather far away from being soup but I think she's one to keep an eye on in the future.
But yeah, so far some of the judging for these events has been off...
Miyahara and Hicks are both fast (and sloppy), but importantly, both have a lot more transitions in their programs than Cesario and Shoji -- at least an order of magnitude more, especially compared to Cesario, who does mainly cross-overs and mohawks in between her elements (albeit very elegantly).
Last edited by feraina; 09-22-2011 at 06:23 AM.
I was super impressed with Miyahara's SP. And ITA with ferania about the amount of transitions in her programs. She has great skating skills and is one of those few skaters that can handle non-stop changes of edges in the step sequences with ease. I also think she moves really well to the music for her age and has a spark depite being rough around the edges. I really like her relaxed shoulders and the ease she skates with. She seems to be using the entire body during her steps without over doing it and has a wide range movement compared to others. I see that as great potential to handle very interesting and dynamic choreography in the future. I think a lot of people are being overly critical of her "junvenile" presentation just because she looks about 8. But that doesn't mean she skates like she's 8.
Last edited by shine; 09-22-2011 at 06:24 AM.
Although I agree Miyahara has a lot of spark, I am not overly impressed with her. She doesn't have the elegance I see from Risa Shoji or Lipnitskaya. However, I also think she has potential, but for now, she seems pretty average to me.
Short clip of Mao practicing her short program on her blog. There's a link to a Quicktime vid at the end of the entry.
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Short Program "Scherherazade" desu.
Short program "Scherherazade" desu.
Since some years ago, whenever I went to Tatiana-sensei, (this piece) was on her list of music. I thought it was a kawaii* Scherherazade.
The music has a variety of tones so I want to show a variety of expressions that fits throughout this program.
*kawaii is the Japanese word for cute, but it also has other meanings too... lovely, charming, pretty... don't get too caught up in what the word "cute" implies in English.
whee, and now I can join the love!!
She is really expressive and musical for a 13-year-old! Cannot wait to see what will become of her in a couple of years!
And she had already more transitions in this one program than Ksenia Makarova had in all her programs put together.