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    Parents, Don't Dress Your Daughters Like Tramps

    A lot of the comments on this article say they would love to dress their daughters in age-appropriate clothing, if they could find any in the store. Is this true? Is it that hard to find nice (i.e. not Junior Slut) clothes for girls?

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    It's getting harder, even for sizes as small as 6. By the time you get into the pre-teen stuff (10-12), it's either too short, too tight, or too revealing. Fortunately, our family's only remaining pre-teen is a jock, so she's happy in jeans or sweats for school as are most of her friends.
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    What a good question, I'm waiting for the replies. I thought the problem was always, "All the other kids are wearing.....".

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    I'm not a mom but I've done some shopping for girls' clothing, and although I can still find outfits that don't make me cringe, I really was at some of the clothes out there for fairly young girls. I guess I'm getting old.
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    Lands' End. LL Bean. The clothes last forever, and they don't do trashy or suggestive.

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    Where are these people shopping?

    I don't have a little girl any more, but even my teenager can find perfectly presentable, unslutty clothes in stores (and she is WAY more modest than even I would demand her to be). I go shopping with a friend who has a nine year old girl, and, while we roll our eyes over some of the things we see, we never have any problem finding her daughter clothes, either.
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    I don't have a little girl but I see tons of appropriate clothing at places such as JC Penny, Macy's, Dillards, Old Navy, etc. I think all the slutty clothes are at specialty stores in the mall such as Forever 21, Wet Seal, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I don't have a little girl but I see tons of appropriate clothing at places such as JC Penny, Macy's, Dillards, Old Navy, etc. I think all the slutty clothes are at specialty stores in the mall such as Forever 21, Wet Seal, etc.
    And Abercrombie, and Aeropostale, and Hollister, and Express, and on and on.

    Clothing that is more modest and age-appropriate is out there, but it' is far outnumbered by the skimpier, skankier stuff that dominates -- when MiniCyn and I go shopping, it's an all-day ordeal that is punctuated repeatedly by my grumbling at the lack of selection/ hemlines or revealing tops/cursing the Bratz Dolls under my breath. The excursion is never complete without the requisite 473 times I have to tell MiniCyn to put whatever she's picked out back on the rack as it's too short/too low cut/too mature/won't fit her body type.

    She's not horrible about it in that she's not trying to deliberate dress like a slut; she's trying to follow a lot of the fashion trends. We can usually find a happy middle ground that isn't sleazy but at the same time isn't resembling Quaker fashion .

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    The clothes at Urban Outfitter are fun and trendy and offbeat without being sluttish. I wish they had UO around when I was young enough to wear most of their stuff. It's too old for pre-teens, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    And Abercrombie, and Aeropostale, and Hollister, and Express, and on and on.
    Express isn't even for children or teens, nor is it marketed towards them. Express has plenty of appropriate clothing, I shop there all the time for work clothes. Yes, they have items also for more club or going out wear, but again, it's age appropriate. There's no problem with Express carrying short skirts for adult women. Just because a store has trendy music blasting doesn't mean it's trying to corrupt youth.

    Believe it or not, Abercrombie, Hollister, etc DO have some clothing that are just fine for teenagers. There are plenty of regular non midriff baring t-shirts, sweatpants without ass logos, hoodies, sweaters and dresses. Yes, I know they have low rise jeans and teeny skirts as well. But the entire Abercrombie store isn't a slut shop and never has been. Yes, the marketing is quite racy, I don't deny that either. But it's up to the parent to say "No, you may not have this skirt that barely covers your hoo-ha, but you may have this t-shirt with the moose on the front".

    Even in Abercrombie kids....what's wrong with any of these? http://www.abercrombiekids.com/webap...tegoryId=13113

    Or these? http://www.abercrombiekids.com/webap...tegoryId=13113

    I think the point of the article is spot on....don't dress your daughters like tramps. It might be a pain finding it, but there is plenty of age appropriate clothing out there that will look good on them. And even if they insist on Abercrombie or Hollister, there are things that are ok in there for them. I guess it just bugs me when people in general vilify the store instead of having the parents take more accountability for what their kids wear. I know I am way past the target age but I go to both Abercrombie and Hollister all the time. I have shirts from both stores that have lasted me forever. The quality is actually pretty good. I'd rather pay $25 for a shirt I'll have for 5 years than $5 for an Old Navy tissue tee that'll last the summer.

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    Stormy--I'm willing to believe you about Abercrombie; I've seen decent stuff in there. But I have underwear that covers more than the shorts and skirts at Hollister. You can get quality t-shirts and such at American Eagle, Gap, Banana Republic, etc... and shorts and skirts that cover your entire ass.

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    I'm surprised to read people find Hollister, Abercrombie and Aeropostale slutty. Maybe it's the way some kids are wearing them that you are seeing ( ie. wearing clothing too small for them ) but I see teens everyday in these brands and I wouldn't think any of them are trashy looking. Even Forever 21 and Wet Seal have enough modest clothing to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marbri View Post
    I'm surprised to read people find Hollister, Abercrombie and Aeropostale slutty. Maybe it's the way some kids are wearing them that you are seeing ( ie. wearing clothing too small for them ) but I see teens everyday in these brands and I wouldn't think any of them are trashy looking. Even Forever 21 and Wet Seal have enough modest clothing to choose from.
    At a school awards night, we were all treated to a full on view of a girl's business, shall we say, in her new Hollister skirt she had previously bragged about wearing to the event. If the shorts have an inseam the same length as boy short style underwear, it is hard to wear them modestly. And showing butt cheeks is not modest.

    And I am not a prude at all...I just don't want to know what kind of wax job someone gets just because I happened to see her in shorts or a skirt that are either way too short or way too low rise. Cover the butt cheeks and the hip bones, at least, people.

    I agree about Forever 21, FTR.

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    So whatever that particular girl was wearing sounds inappropriate. I don't know what's inappropriate about the vast majority of their clothes though as they are t-shirts, hoodies, plaid shirts, jeans and sweatpants and the jean shorts mine has don't show butt cheeks or wax jobs. I see no exposed hipbones or bellies or cleavage at all.

    The skirts on the other hand can be short, particularly depending on the body shape, most kids I know wear biking shorts under them.
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    Very impressive article.

    It is not just kids. So many people these days wear stuff that just isn't suitable for them. They think they are looking fashionable but end up just looking skanky. And that is because the majority of stuff available is just cheap, not well made and doesn't suit a lot of body shapes.

    But these are probably the same parents who put those headbands on their babies heads, even if they haven't got hair (one of the more ridiculous baby fashion trends). And a while back there was a company that made high heels for babies too, even though the kids couldn't walk.
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    Perhaps marbri lives in an area where the parents are a little more involved in clothing selection (or the teens are more modest). Fashion trends and associated peer pressure may vary from place to place. My brother in law is a school bus driver and in his area he says it's absolutely sluts on parade. Abercrombie and their ilk wouldn't be offering bras and thongs for pre-teens unless they were selling.

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    If the majority of girls are showing their hipbones, then why is it slutty to be exposing your hipbones? Modesty is not the fashion right now. Skin and piercings, and short skirts are the fashion, and a girl has to go really extremely underdressed to look odd right now.

    I find the whole tramp/slutty thing rather offensive, because to me it is very close to the argument I used to hear in the '70's where they would defend a boy's actions because the girl was "asking for it" by the way she dressed.

    A modestly dressed woman from the 1950's was wearing much less clothing than a prostitute from the 1900's. Was she dressing in a slutty fashion?

    Also- young women have always pushed at the boundaries of what is acceptable, and it takes maturity (and guidance from their parents) to achieve the right balance. Some parents just let them go out and make a spectacle of themselves, and some make them look ridiculously prudish.
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    I used to work for the Abercrombie company.

    Just sharing here, target markets for Abercrombie owned stores -
    Ruehl 925 - around age 23 and up
    Abercrombie and Fitch - 18 - 22 years old
    Hollister - 15/16ish years to 18
    Abercrombie - 10 - 14

    My brother used to work for Express. That is definitely a store who's target market is not a pre teen. More like a young, working adult.

    But I do agree, lots of girls, especially younger ones are dressing incredibly provocatively lately. It's gross.

    ETA: Oh and have you guys noticed the new trend lately? Push up bathing suit tops. I'm pretty sure Abercrombie (the kids one, the adult one is Abercrombie and Fitch) has them. Target has them also. There's a trend I'll never understand.

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    I think there's plenty of jeans, tops, and dresses available, even if there's a lot of ill-fitting, trashy stuff to sift through in order to find it. It's mostly just parents needing to help their daughters shop and not allow them to buy bad looking clothes just because they're the latest trend.

    The only thing I haven't been able to find in recent years is a good pair of jean shorts. Everything available is either granny style or about as tiny as a swimsuit bottom. The tiny shorts are not only too revealing, but they're usually unfortunate looking for anyone without toothpick legs. I have one pair of shorts I bought years ago, nice normal ones, that I've been hanging onto since I can't find anything else. My sister has tried to steal them from me several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Willy View Post
    Very impressive article.

    It is not just kids. So many people these days wear stuff that just isn't suitable for them. They think they are looking fashionable but end up just looking skanky. And that is because the majority of stuff available is just cheap, not well made and doesn't suit a lot of body shapes.

    But these are probably the same parents who put those headbands on their babies heads, even if they haven't got hair (one of the more ridiculous baby fashion trends). And a while back there was a company that made high heels for babies too, even though the kids couldn't walk.
    Parents don't don't put headbands on baby girls because of hair. They do it because it's easier than trying to keep a bow or barrette in. I think a lot of them are really cute.
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