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    The reports of I/K depature from Zhulin are now being in full force. Pretty much a done deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millipied View Post
    I/K depature
    who are they going to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by millipied View Post
    The reports of I/K depature from Zhulin are now being in full force. Pretty much a done deal.
    Oh boy. Please don't say they're going to Shpilband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    Oh boy. Please don't say they're going to Shpilband.
    Russian forums have state that Spilband has 100% said no to taking them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliona22 View Post
    who are they going to?
    That's the next big question. It is 100% not Z/S. My bet would be Morozov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taz'smum View Post
    Russian forums have state that Spilband has 100% said no to taking them!
    I guess mama Marina does not want to help I/K or any Russians beat her son

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    Quote Originally Posted by millipied View Post
    The reports of I/K depature from Zhulin are now being in full force. Pretty much a done deal.
    Are there any links, interviews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by millipied View Post
    That's the next big question. It is 100% not Z/S. My bet would be Morozov.
    I wouldn't mind that.

    I know I've complained about Morozov in the past, but it's mostly been because of his lazy choreo.

    The skaters that work with him all seem to have nothing but good things to say and I keep reading articles from those students praising his coaching methods.

    I wish he'd outsource his choreo, but the judges seem to score that choreo well, so I guess it works though it may not be to my tastes.

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    WOW it couldn't get worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Are there any links, interviews?
    No official statements yet, but it's been widely discussed over at Vaytsekhovskaya's blog after she hinted the news first. I don't think we can hear anything official until the new coach is finalized.

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    I'm a bit out-the-loop on this one; why are I/K leaving Zhulin?

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    well, I would love to see Elena and Nikita traning with Pasquale, i like his choreos and they really need some good ones to be among with top teams.

    I glad Naty and Faby went to Pasquale, I think they can came up with nice thing (How I wished Belbin and Agosto had gone to him, I think they flamenci SOI number was choreographed by him and its great).

    I sooo wish the best of the luck to P/B, i really like them, they are so ligth and expressive. They can skate to everything, lyrical to strong pieces and, to me, that is what a top ice dance team should be able to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarieM View Post
    WOW it couldn't get worse
    Well, Morozov does seem good at producing consistent skaters, and consistency is what I/K need most at this point. I don't think it's necessary a bad move.

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    If I/K also leave Zhulin, who is Zhulin actually left with?
    Rockin' Finnish commentator: "And that was supposed to be a flip but it turned out to be a flop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    If I/K also leave Zhulin, who is Zhulin actually left with?
    Ice Age

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    Quote Originally Posted by millipied View Post
    Ice Age
    lol...that is kind of sad

    didn't he had another junior dancers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Who else coaches in Detroit? I know only a few names.
    Yuka Sato and her husband, Jason Dunjgen coach at the same rink as Carmelingo & Krylova.

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    Yasa and Yuri are in Ann Arbor (for now). Are Liz and Jerrod Swallow still at DSC? Seth Chafetz is also in Detroit. He coached a lot of these team when they first formed (davis and white)
    "awwww....shades of Janet Lynn" - Dick Button on anyone who makes more than one mistake in their program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky166 View Post
    Well, Morozov does seem good at producing consistent skaters, and consistency is what I/K need most at this point. I don't think it's necessary a bad move.
    I/K are very young and what they need at this point is to improve all aspects of their skating. Morozov has never improved the technique of any of his ice dance students. Actually, at their young age both Ilinykh and Katsalapov are already much better ice dancers than Morozov ever was. They should teach him.

    Also, Morozov has been out of the loop for five years as far as ice dance is concerned. That is a long time with the rules changing all the time.



    If this rumour is true, would it be a bad move? Hmm. Let me think.

    On the one hand, you have Zhulin:

    - A legend as far as ice dance technique is concerned. U/Z's compulsries are still considered the reference.
    - Two olympic medals, five World medals, six European medals.
    - Tons of first hand competition experience.
    - Coach of olympic champions N/K, unbeatable for many seasons.
    - Coach of this year's European champions.
    - Coach of last year's Junior World Champions.
    - The coach who made I/K a sensation from almost nothing.
    - Head coach of a small group of ice dance teams.
    - Teamed up with the respected and experienced ice dance coach Oleg Volkov.

    On the other hand, you have Morozov:

    - Crappy ice dancer, crappy technique.
    - One 10th place at Worlds and one 10th place at Euros.
    - Coach of olympic bronze medalists Grushina/Goncharov, the slowest team in the history of ice dance, with the worse male ice dancer ever to have climbed that podium.
    - Coach of World Champions B/K, to whom he successfully taught how to hold themselves straight and how to angst, the rest was already there when they switched to him.
    - Hasn't coached a world-class ice-dance team for five years.
    - Doesn't have an ice dance team in his group.
    - Has many singles skaters to divide his time.
    - No experienced assistant coach to look after I/K while he is busy.

    Also given that I/K are already used to Zhulin and have said that they want to continue with him, I am really having a hard time deciding between the two coaches. It is such a tough, tough decision, honestly!

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    Well, good athlete does not equal good coach. Sometimes just the opposite.

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