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    Most disliked coach.

    Who do you dislike more- Tom Z or Morozov. (Or is there another coach out there more worthy of contempt?)

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    Mishin? Well, I respect him, but I'm always under the impression he's not well liked here.

    Who's Tom Z.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zokko! View Post
    Who's Tom Z.?
    Tom Zakrajsek, Flatt's coach.

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    I don't think I can say I dislike anyone ! After all, I don't know personnally any of those coaches. And I respect all of them for their abilities.
    But really, I don't share the vision of this sport of Mishin and Morozov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikiAndoFan#1 View Post
    Tom Zakrajsek, Flatt's coach.
    Thanks for the information!

    Flatt's coach? While I agree she's not exactly the most pleasant thing on ice to watch, I don't get the despise. Must be US internal, I guess.

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    Damn, I thought it was Brian Orser! Ooops...that's only in certain threads -- pardon me!
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    The most disliked coach here probably is indeed Morozov.
    Shpilband/Zueva aren't also that loved.
    "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

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    I get the impression from some that Mishin's name is practically a filthy word...

    Must be a bunch of people jealous at the amazing skaters he's trained!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post

    Must be a bunch of people jealous at the amazing skaters he's trained!

    Or perhaps we don't find those skaters all that amazing. My issue with Mishin is every single one of his skaters has horrible choreography and costumes. I'll agree he's a great coach when it comes to jumps.

    There are so words to describe what I think of Tom Z. right now.

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    I don't think Tom Z. is so bad. Joanne McLeod is also widely disliked.

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    Robin Wagner hasn't gotten much love here either.
    "Marge, if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something stupid, then I guess I'm just going to have to stop doing stupid things!" - Homer Simpson in the Mr. Plow episode

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    I'm not sure I get the point of this thread. Why are these coaches worthy of contempt? The only reason you even know their names is because they have had many successful skaters. Very few coaches have a skater go to Nationals, let alone more than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskarne View Post
    Must be a bunch of people jealous at the amazing skaters he's trained!
    No matter the situation, the 'you're just jealous' argument requires no thought whatsoever and is an easy way out of actually thinking up logical reasons. It also never holds any water. I hate, hate, hate this stupid, cliche line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelleC View Post
    Or perhaps we don't find those skaters all that amazing. My issue with Mishin is every single one of his skaters has horrible choreography and costumes. I'll agree he's a great coach when it comes to jumps.

    There are so words to describe what I think of Tom Z. right now.
    I don't think his style fits in with the the new system that was obvious with Plushenko. I don't know what he was like personally but I always thought he looked like a little mean man!! lol

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    Tom Z. Morozov's creepy but his students are really talented jumpers and for the most part quite consistent. Got to give him credit where credit is due. Tom Z on the other hand, produces a lot of slow, generic skaters, a lot of whom are inconsistent. Agnes needs to leave Tom Z ASAP, she has so much potential but I fear it won't amount to anything if she stays with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliceanne View Post
    I'm not sure I get the point of this thread. Why are these coaches worthy of contempt? The only reason you even know their names is because they have had many successful skaters. Very few coaches have a skater go to Nationals, let alone more than one.
    Before this Flatt issue many of us have had bad experiences with Tommy Boy.
    Tom Z is an arrogant egotist who thinks he is better than everyone else. Many a competitor or coach has experienced the cold shoulder and all the unnecessary mind games during the warm up’s before competitions. He is just an ass. So is his stone faced side kick Becky.

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    Personally I hate Zhulin, mostly for wasting that great Delobel-and-Schoenfelder-kind-of-class material Nathalie and Fabian used to be under Zazoui.

    Morozov isn't exactly my favourite guy either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheylana View Post
    Robin Wagner hasn't gotten much love here either.
    Or much therapy, it seems. I vote for her. That 04 Worlds fluff piece of her talking to Sasha Cohen, "YOU LOOK SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRETTY TODAY", like she was a goddamned Pomeranian on her lap. I was waiting for her to rub Sasha' belly and give her a Milk Bone .

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    Whilst I don't particularly like what Mishin does for his skaters in terms of the choreography of the programs, I do think he is a funny man and a really character of the sport.

    Morozov I think gets the most amount of ragging here.
    When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Willy View Post
    Whilst I don't particularly like what Mishin does for his skaters in terms of the choreography of the programs, I do think he is a funny man and a really character of the sport.

    Morozov I think gets the most amount of ragging here.
    Must say I wish Mishin's students would work with some different choreographers

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