Yuna has so much on her plate right now so I just can't see her doing GP circuit thing. But then again, many of her projects at least partially depend on her continued success as competitive athlete, so I don't see her retiring altogether either.
You need to remember Davis & White did not pass Belbin & Agosto until the very Olympic season. B&A stayed clearly in front almost the entire quad. So yes an additional 5 points gap indicate S&S are unlikely to catch D&W by Sochi. B&A also struggled to find the right vehicle and improve for awhile, had some bad luck, and with their failure to win their much anticapted major title gradually fell out of favor.
Anyway I was responding to people who said D&W should just move on since obviously they must know they cant hold off S&S which is a ridiculous logic at this point.
Pairs: I think Kavaguti and Pang & Tong might retire before Sochi, not sure about right now. Evora & Ladwig might retire now, and the Zhangs probably will retire or have already.
Men: Van Der Perren, Bradley, Contesti all seem likely. Joubert after next years Worlds.
Ladies: Miki Ando and Rachel Flatt for sure, Wagner and Zhang maybe.
I don't think Miki's retiring. She might take a year off.
^Miki has said many times she aims to be in Sochi.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell
It seems that Miki is still deciding what to do next year, but she hopes to continue until Sochi.
It'll be tricky for her, though- she relies so much on Morozov and clearly trusts him completely. In fact, in interview she says she is not sure she'd be able to skate without him. If Morozov is indeed obligated to drop foreign students, might be a tough situation for her.
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Seriously, have people saying D/W will/should retire been drinking or smoking something? That's totally NOT happening! They're on top of their game and one look at them is enough to say how competition hungry they still are. They still want to improve and besides I can imagine them wanting to prove themselves by winning against full-trained V/M. If I were them, I'd like to give this Olympic gold one more shot as well, even if it was about to end with a sliver or bronze. if there is someone who's already won everything, it's V/M, but as someone already said, they'd probably wonna retire as World champions, not silver medalists, besides they also look excited about finally being able to train normally. So I am 100% positive both teams are staying, with D/W staying until Sochi almost for sure.
And please, do not compare D/W surpassing B/A with the possibility of the Shibs surpassing D/W. As someone already stated, B/A were never a team of the quality of Meryl and Charlie. They were also never World champions. What they had was a benefit of competing during a totally dead period in ice dance, with no real stars. If they were in the same generation of dancers as D/W and V/M, they'd probably never win their medals.
And plus, there still are Samuelson/Bates. I'm really curious to see who's gonna be USA's no 2 next season.
Besides, 24 and 23 is still such a young age for a dance team! with all those teenagers appearing everywhere, people seem to forget the best ice dance performances are usually delivered by mature, 30-ish skaters. I believe both D/W and V/M can still become so much better in terms of expression and artistry as they grow older. I wouldn't want to miss possible masterpieces because of somebody's premature retirement.
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I think with that surprise bronze medal, Maia and Alex are firmly the USA's number 2 team now.
Samuelson/Bates will not be granted second position by default.
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Re Miki Ando- maybe the Fed is playing a role in persuading her to compete in light of the gold medal at '11 Worlds, and in light of Mao rebuilding, Suzuki aging and possibly on the verge of retirement, Nakano retired, Suguri basically a side show, and Murakami still rough and developing???
And how many good Junior ladies are there in JPN these days?? A lot of the focus has been on the baby Russians. At Jr. Worlds, didn't it end up being a duel between Russia and the US? Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Hicks, Gao, Shelepen, and Zawadzki, with the JPN ladies not really in the mix? Maybe the JSF fears a gap in coming years as Miki and Mao age, and slim pickings among the Jrs., so they want to keep the current gold medalist going...
Risa Shoji was the highest placed Japanese lady. She was 5th. She has a 3S+3T, but also has a tendency to under-rotate. She was also 4th at the JGPF.
At the moment it seems like the Russian and American junior ladies are more technically advanced than the Japanese.
I don't see Miki retiring. She might even win a 3rd world title and seriously challenge in Sochi, depending on how the Russian junior ladies do at the senior level.
I'd like to see Joubert skate at the Worlds in his home country next year, although it was kind of painful to watch him at the Moscow worlds. I don't really see him continuing past that, unfortunately.
I hope Pechalat and Bourzat come back from this disappointment and win worlds next year. Very unfortunate what happened. Delschoes also ended up 4th a few times before they won worlds.
I'm a bit surprised to hear that Takahashi will continue. I thought he was going to retire for sure after worlds.
How is it that the Shibs didn't win Junior Worlds even once? They are the solid #2 American ice dance team now, and one day, they'll do to D/W what D/W did to Belgosto & what Belgosto did to L/T (take first place in the eyes of international and home judges).
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Joubert needs to end things. If he skates in France like he skated in Moscow, it will devastate him. I'd hate to see him crushed like that at home and his list of issues just seems to keep growing.
LOL Pechelat and Bourzat will never win Worlds. This year was by far their best shot to medal ever. They basically had to have a disaester to lose the bronze and that is what happened. They might have a shot at the bronze with Worlds in France next year, but it will be alot harder with the up and coming teams improving. Delobel & Schoenfelder had beaten all the top teams at various points and won a European title before their World title. Nothing like P&B who arent miles behind V&M and D&W.
Miki Ando did so well this year mostly by just how poor the ladies event was this year. It wasnt any drastic improvement in her performances. She wouldnt have won any major title since...well probably the year Jill Trenary won with her performancesto win Worlds this year, and she wouldnt have medalled in Vancouver either with her performances to win Worlds this year . Imagine putting Ando from Moscow vs Kim of Vancouver or even Asada of Turin last year, what a blowout that would be. Credit her for taking advantage of how things were though.
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