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    Let's move to next season: Will we see the first ISU rectified 4F and 4Lo and 4T+4T?

    It seemed that the Men's Figure Skating Season is almost over. Let's have some interesting topic over this board: Will we see the first ISU-rectified Quadruple Flip, Quadruple Loop and Quad + Quad combo in the next season?

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    Loop: Gachinsky
    Flip: Chan

    Quad+Quad: Don't know - maybe Gachinsky.

    Lutz: Gachinsky (Weiss' was never ratified, was it?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proustable View Post
    Loop: Gachinsky
    Flip: Chan

    Quad+Quad: Don't know - maybe Gachinsky.

    Lutz: Gachinsky (Weiss' was never ratified, was it?)
    Gachinsky

    Doesn't Kevin Reynolds already try the 4Loop ?

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    I acutally like this much much improved Gachinsky. Someone even did a nice makeover with hair, makeup and all that jazz. I think it is impressive Worlds debut and certainly someone to watch out this Olympic cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briancoogaert View Post
    Gachinsky

    Doesn't Kevin Reynolds already try the 4Loop ?
    Yes. It's actually a listed jump for him, but he's never landed it in competition.

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    Maybe Daisuke will do the quad flip. I didn't know Gachinski intended on trying a 4Loop or 4T-4T (has he already tried the loop?). If VDP comes back, we might see a 4T-4T from him, but I still think it's doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    Maybe Daisuke will do the quad flip. I didn't know Gachinski intended on trying a 4Loop or 4T-4T (has he already tried the loop?). If VDP comes back, we might see a 4T-4T from him, but I still think it's doubtful.
    I have this tiny hope that with nothing to lose, Daisuke might attempt 4F tomorrow successfully and get it ISU-rectified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da96103 View Post
    I have this tiny hope that with nothing to lose, Daisuke might attempt 4F tomorrow successfully and get it ISU-rectified.
    If he does, I will leave FSU and never come back again lol.

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    Not to be a dick, but the word is ratified, not rectified.

    Rectify means to make right or to fix.

    Ratify means to confirm or corroborate.

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    No, we won't.

    Although maybe Reynolds will land that loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proustable View Post
    Not to be a dick, but the word is ratified, not rectified.

    Rectify means to make right or to fix.

    Ratify means to confirm or corroborate.
    Maybe the ISU will get around to rectifying the badly done jumps too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proustable View Post
    Not to be a dick, but the word is ratified, not rectified.
    Thankyou...I was going to make the same point...although seeing the ISU try to "rectify" some of the jumps would have been hilarious!

    Quad Loop - Gachinsky/Plushenko

    Quad Toe/Quad Toe - actually I'd like to see Menshov do this first, that would be awesome

    Quad Flip - Daisuke

    Quad Lutz - Plushenko

    Triple Axel/Quad Toe - Plushenko


    Just added in a couple that are definitely being practiced and you left off your list

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    Has someone had a quad lutz ratified yet?

    Rippon says he is training one, and I imagine he'll be able to do it the way his lutzes go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittl1321 View Post
    Has someone had a quad lutz ratified yet?
    No. Plushenko tried one originally at the CoR 2001, and only JUST missed landing it - two footed, nearly recovered but ended up splatting. Shame, if you type in "plushenko quad lutz" on Youtube you can find it, it was actually a very close attempt (and shock horror, the American commentators liked him then...) He never tried it again after that, mostly because he was in his Olympic season battling Yagudin and didn't want to risk hurting himself, and then after that season I guess he figured he didn't need it anymore because Yagudin had retired.

    He's bringing it back though, and has been working on it and the 4Lo and 4S in training. I have a feeling he'd like to have it as his second quad in the SP if he could get it consistent.

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    Quad Loop - Yuna Kim

    Quad Toe/Quad Toe - Fumie

    Quad Flip - Caroline Zhang

    Quad Lutz - Mao Asada

    Triple Axel/Quad Toe -Rachelle Flatt

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    Quote Originally Posted by overedge View Post
    Maybe the ISU will get around to rectifying the badly done jumps too
    LOL, Miki Ando's 4Sal should have been rectified before being ratified.

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    Although he is obscure and only finished in tenth place at Russian nationals, let's not forget Vladislav Sezganov, who is practicing the quad lutz and can be seen doing an amazing one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIv1_eYk9Cg. Of course, I realize he won't be competing internationally at ISU championships, but maybe taking the third spot at Cup of Russia some year is in his future and he can attempt his quad there.

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    Flip: Chan, Brezina

    Lutz: Rippon!

    Loop: Reynolds, Gatchinski

    4t+4t: KVDP (if he doesn't retire), Oda

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    S/S may try 4Fth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proustable View Post
    Lutz: Gachinsky (Weiss' was never ratified, was it?)
    Weiss never landed a clean 4L in competition.

    I think a clean 4t-4t is too much, so I don't think we'll see one any time soon; although Plushy has attempted 3A-4t in practice.

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