Tim did 3 quads, he deserved the bronze IMO. Sash was a great skater but I agree he just skated from one side of the rink to the other and he fell on the quad.
As I already stated earlier, I agree Tim deserved the bronze in Salt Lake, looking at how it was skated. Sasha made mistakes, and though he was judged too low in the sp, the fs I cannot argue about.
It was not just at this event that Sasha didn't get the marks he deserved though. I think it had to do with his reputation; being the third Russian, who had a history of being inconsitant, having trouble making the Russian team, not landing the quad constitantly until 2002, not showing good results over time, as he was bouncing in and out of int competetitions, because of all the injuries he had....
His path to sucsess didn't excactly go straight uphill, it looked more like a one of those curves that measures your heart rythm, it's a miracle he held out all those years after all...
His style was also a bit different, but his basic and elements, when done cleanly, was absolutely gorgeous, I could watch him do crossovers all day long. An his camel were he bends over...awwww
I see your point about him skating back and forth in the rink, doing jumps in the corner...but for some reason, in his Rach program, it didn't bother me one bit, that program was still so beautiful, and fitted him perfectly. (btw his 3a was not done in the corners )
Quad or no quad, and based on the sp as well, I think I would prefer Honda and Abt ahead of Goebel for the bronze based on their vast difference in presentation. But it was obvious that Russia spent all their vokda to ensure top two for Yagudin and Plushenko and there was none left for Abt. And with Eldredge and Weiss out of medal contention, it was only fair that USFS placed all their pie on Goebel to ensure he gets a medal at home.
I really love Yagudin, but for me that performance of MITIM wasn't him giving his 100%, and I'm not talking about watering down the technical difficulty (2 quads and his gigantic 3a is still totally amazing...). For me that program never had much choreographic content nor I sensed a very soulful performance by Alexei.
My favorite program of his, apart from Gladiator, was the obscure Broken Arrow program. That was Tarasova at her best: dark, intense and powerful as only Yagudin could deliver.
Don't get me wrong, he totally deserved the Gold Medal but I'll always associate that music to A/P 99 free dance...and Honda skated better to it, too imho
My theory goes like this - if Sasha had been scored fairly in the SP, he should have been second or third. Then he would have been under less pressure in the LP and less likely to muff it. That's just my thinking. Whatever, I'm sure everyone agrees on one thing: in the SP, Sasha was really robbed.
I am a born and raised citizen of the USA, and I would have been perfectly delighted with a Russian 1-2-3 at the SLC games. I know.....but, personally, it would have prefered it.
"Broken Arrow" is my favorite Yag's program by far, so of course it's the one that got the cold shoulder from the judges.My favorite program of his, apart from Gladiator, was the obscure Broken Arrow program. That was Tarasova at her best: dark, intense and powerful as only Yagudin could deliver.
I thought that taking all elements and all presentation criteria into account, Plushenko started with a higher base mark than Abt. Then I subtracted 0.4 deduction for Plushenko's fall and maybe 0.2 deductions for Abt, and Plushenko still came out ahead. When I get a chance I'll give details in the SP thread.
Also totally agree about A/P and Honda's programs to MITIM. Honda musicality really shined in that program and it was a lot more heart felt than Alexei's IMO.
I love LOVE Yags broken arrow as his best ever program
I think I first fell in love with Alexei for his Lawrence of Arabia. I am old enough to remember the movie coiming out...and beautiful young Peter O'Toole, and that glorious music! I was VERY young, but it made an impression. That is one perfect program...I was entranced, although possibly "softened up" before hand.