Pissev's comments on the topic pretty much same as David Raith's above. He states that the event format is yet to be finalized.
When a skater bombs, it really only affects that specific skater. But in a team competition, other skaters will be affected. I can already imagine the headlines if Canada loses a medal because its lady skater skates like she usually does. Or the US Pairs team skate like they usually do. Or watching the Reeds apologize to Japan. Or Plushenko is still banned.
And I can see the Russian audience really getting into it. I would've loved being in that type of event in Vancouver, especially when I imagine the reaction after Dube/Davison and Chan get "overscored" (assuming they skated the same way they did in their own competition). There's that nationalism that gets more intensified in a team sport environment.
In that respect, I do like it.
I also look forward to all the "What would happen if there were team events at the ______ Olympics" threads and "Should the USFSA have chosen Tara or Michelle for the Olympic Team Event in 1998" threads.
Last edited by manhn; 04-07-2011 at 07:44 AM.
Sorry, not the way it works in any sport.
I remember watching a swimming relay in China or Barcelona when the US team had a disastrous start when the first guy slipped off the start and just splashed in the water. He was wayyyyyyy behind but the other men on his team caught up enough to win gold. ALL the men won gold, even Slippy Slipperson who almost lost the whole race. That is the whole thing about being on a team, you all win and you all lose.
What the ****?! I absolutely HATE this ****ing idea!!!! Why? Well, I'm not ****ing ashamed to admit it so I'll tell you - it's because MK would've been an Olympic mutha****ing Champion if these mutha****ers had pushed for the inclusion of these events earlier! Yes, that's right *****es, I'm a MK fan and I'm still bitter as **** about her not having an OGM! Son of a *****! I'm so ****ing PO'd right NOW!!!!!! Mutha****ers! ****! ****!...... ****!...........****!................
I think it's a wonderful idea!!!!
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I will kill you!!!
A positive side is, that some skaters who are not talented enough to win the gold medal or any Olympic medal in singles skating, may actually have a chance in a team event.
On the other hand...
If there were a Synchro event, that would be different. That would be a truly legit, new figure skating discipline. Yes, that would bring more athletes to the games...but aren't there already other "lotsa athletes" events, such as Hockey and Women's Hockey? Just saying.
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As a former gymnast, I love the team event in that sport. For athletes who normally compete as individuals, for individual medals, being able to truly be on a team is an experience not to be missed. It's a whole different dynamic.
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I am torn. I don't hate the idea of a team competition. I don't especially want to have to see the same programs I just saw AGAIN. (No, I don't find watching someone do the same floor routine or beam routine or vault they just did in the all-round particularly exciting, either.) If they were going to have different (maybe shorter/fewer requirements) programs, or different skaters....
I'm also divided on the tired-out thing. On the one hand I can see where that would make a tiring event even worse (competition is a lot more exhausting and stressful than just practicing at home, even when you enjoy it.) OTOH, it hasn't killed the gymnasts or equestrians (however in equestrian you do not always have the same rider/horse combos) or the track and field athletes.
It could work. It could be awful. I tend more towards awful, but not because the general idea is bad but because of all the people to make a difficult idea work, $peedy is not one who inspires deep confidence in me.
It's not practically a bad idea because some country like CND, US. Russia and Japan have multiple skaters. And they said, they can substitue different skaters between SP and LP, so country like Japan and US can definietly let someone do a SP and another one do LP. SO itn't not really that much different, unless u only have one entry each for events.
And I'm sure Uncle Sam wouldn't mind adding more medal to the tally. A medal is a medal.
[QUOTE=made_in_canada;3133604]I don't follow gymnastics so forgive my ignorance but are there only a few countries that can feasibly participate in the team competition for gymnastics? I know that certain countries tend to dominate but how big is the potential pool of competing nations? It just seems odd to me to have an event in which there really are a very limited amount of nations who can actually compete. QUOTE]
In the past pretty much, it was the USA, USSR, Romania and China
mind you the last oympiad was china domination (but it was in beijing, china dominated all sports)
NOW RUSSA, USA, CHINA, ROMANIA, FRANCE, BRAZIL, ITALY, ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN, GERMANY, CANADA, SOUTH KOREA, NORTH KOREA, UKRAINE, BELARUS, probably missed some.all trying to qualify a team into the olympics.
It takes time for a new events to develop and grow internationally all around. in some of these countries, in the past they only use to send out a individual athletes that are profficient at specific events, now they have developed teams with multiple athletes that are good at all events.
Like skating now some nations develop individual athletes good at certain events (KOREA, GER, CHINA, ITA, FRANCE) with a team idea why can't it develop so that these nations can have teams with multiple athletes good at all events!
If you look at the sports added in Sochi, it's all about return on investment for the host country. All the new sports use existing venues and only a small increase in the number of athletes participating. Assuming there are prelims and finals in each event you can sell 12 more sets of tickets (and figure skating at least is a big $$ ticket) for the cost of adding 100 or so athletes.