Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 24
  1. #1
    Watch me move
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    With Sandra Lee, shouting "I HAVE FEELINGS TOO" at startled Italian tourists
    Posts
    14,429
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    I would have been here sooner, but the bus kept stopping for other people to get on it. - Sheldon Cooper, The Big Bang Theory

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    The Top of Utah!!
    Age
    54
    Posts
    7,075
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    185
    Gosh, he was only four years old...
    Nubka - Unpaid Slave Laborer...

  3. #3
    Liberal Furry
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Packing for Fake London!
    Posts
    2,150
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    52
    I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned.
    (Edna St Vincent Millay)

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    7,468
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    47
    So sad and strange.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    18,410
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    548
    Sad.

  6. #6
    Philosorapter
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Augmenting my YouTube favorites list.
    Age
    31
    Posts
    19,945
    vCash
    17705
    Rep Power
    579
    RIP Knut.

  7. #7
    Hey, Kool-Aid!
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Posts
    11,048
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    26
    Read in the article he was rejected by his mother at birth and that the three female bears in the pen with him weren't inviting him over for tea parties. Maybe there is a reason for this and that Knut wasn't meant to survive and only did so for four years because man stepped in.
    Come on, you can do it

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    2,639
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    13
    I'm glad I got to see him two years ago. He was so cute.

    RIP, Knut.
    If ignorance is bliss, I'm overjoyed.

  9. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Where banjos play.
    Age
    34
    Posts
    8,069
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Very sad, poor Knut

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Age
    42
    Posts
    14,096
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    284
    Rest in peace darling Knut.
    "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

  11. #11

    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Age
    37
    Posts
    14,958
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    123
    Quote Originally Posted by marbri View Post
    Read in the article he was rejected by his mother at birth and that the three female bears in the pen with him weren't inviting him over for tea parties. Maybe there is a reason for this and that Knut wasn't meant to survive and only did so for four years because man stepped in.
    Well, then I'm glad man stepped in. I think they were four pretty good years. RIP, Knut.
    Charter member of the "We Always Believed in Ashley" Club

  12. #12
    Hey, Kool-Aid!
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Posts
    11,048
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyliefan View Post
    Well, then I'm glad man stepped in. I think they were four pretty good years. RIP, Knut.
    I'm not celebrating his death. Just wondering out loud.
    Come on, you can do it

  13. #13
    Awaiting Validation
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    "Winterpeg"
    Posts
    4,567
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    In Canada they mention the normal life spans for Polar Bears in the wild and in captivity. In Winnipeg we lost our last Polar Bear, Debbie a little while ago - she was 42 - very ancient.

  14. #14

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    5,452
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by marbri View Post
    I'm not celebrating his death. Just wondering out loud.
    Weren't they all in a zoo though? So man steps in for ALL the bears, not just the one the Mom rejected- though obviously they intervened more for him.

    He was a cute little bear.

  15. #15

    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In and around.
    Posts
    10,438
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    42
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyliefan View Post
    Well, then I'm glad man stepped in. I think they were four pretty good years. RIP, Knut.
    I don't know. I remember reading a year or so ago that he was one unhappy polar bear once the cute factor started wearing off. His Wikipedia page has more info on how his life may not have been so fantastic.

    RIP indeed, though. Maybe things could have turned around for him over time?

  16. #16
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    California
    Posts
    11,774
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Animals in zoos is a tricky subject, with many reasons why and why not, but I this view that they are important* ...

    The wildlife broadcaster Chris Packham acknowledges that a polar bear in captivity loses the ability to relate to bears in the wild. And he believes that if wild polar bears die out there is no point keeping some alive in zoos.

    But he argues that zoos have a crucial advocacy role for animals in the wild. And if a zoo is treating the bear well - as he believes Berlin Zoo was with Knut - then keeping some in captivity is a price worth paying.

    ... and missed his handler Thomas Doerflein "We don't need many polar bears in captivity. But sacrificing those animals is justified as they become ambassadors for their species, striking awe into the hearts of humans. We don't want bears and tigers to go extinct."

    The immediacy of zoo animals will always wow children and adults in a way that television documentaries cannot, he says.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12805534

    *Trusting zoos to make the captive animals' habitats at least mostly suitable for said animals to be said animals.

  17. #17

    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In and around.
    Posts
    10,438
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    42
    Thanks for the article, Beefcake. I'm not against animals in zoos (good zoos, anyways-- where they're properly treated, etc. etc., though that's always up for debate on its own). A few articles on Knut seemed to indicate something was really wrong for him specifically-- not polars bears in captivity in general.

  18. #18
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    40
    Posts
    1,909
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    I think in nature he would have died while still a cub. Apparently he had brain damage which is probably why his birth mother rejected him at birth.

  19. #19

    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Northern Colorado
    Age
    55
    Posts
    674
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    12
    Amateur video of his collapse has surfaced. Don't click if you don't want to see.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20045385.shtml


    I wonder if polar bears can be stricken with vestibular disease. It's what eventually felled my 12-year-old dog a couple of years ago. Although the disease itself didn't really kill him, his inability to recover from it and start walking again forced us with the painful decision to put him down.

    From the descriptions I've heard before seeing the video, Knut actually fell into the water and drowned before anyone could reach him. He's clearly distressed in the video, and just before he collapses, you can see a bunch of drool coming out of his mouth. Poor guy.

  20. #20
    Are you Cohen enough?
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Ravenclaw
    Posts
    26,301
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    224
    Between the vet's opinion and that of PETA, I am going to go with the vet.
    "Nature is a damp, inconvenient sort of place where birds and animals wander about uncooked."

    from Speedy Death

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •