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    Interesting cast. The mens team for the most part look like they should be in rehab or anger management therapy, I actually felt humiliated for some of them. David Cassidy was just portrayed as pathetic and one gulp away from falling off the wagon and what can you say about the Pepperoni Prophet If that's all they could rake up then I can only assume it's getting harder and harder to find "celebrities" to go on this show so Trump can swat them around.

    As for who got fired, Trump never dumps an athlete on their first outing and Mark Burnett probably wasn't going to let him dump Hatch in the first round. Having said that they made Cassidy appear so pathetic and disrespected that I was certain Hatch would be leaving for most of the session as I just couldn't imagine them booting Cassidy after that breaking him down like that. While Hatch came across horribly it's Jose I'm the most weary of, I can see him flying into a roid induced rage so great those ridiculous hair plugs on his forehead go flying out.

    I also anticipate many shots of LaToya holding her cheeks and whispering oh dear in the future because there are some major egos on that side of the table.
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    While Hatch came across horribly it's Jose I'm the most weary of, I can see him flying into a roid induced rage so great those ridiculous hair plugs on his forehead go flying out.
    Trump questioned Richard about the possibility of a strategy of the men losing purposely so that Richard would get fired. Richard answered by pointing out that he didn't think Jose would do that. Trump asked, "Why, you don't think he's that smart?" Richard answered, "I don't." Jose smirked and said Richard won't be here long, anyway.....

    Tune in next week to find out if that sparks any roid rage, or can Jose bide his time for the right moment to squash Hatch?

    Otherwise, John Rich looks good to me for the men.

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    Gary Busey? LaToya Jackson?

    Oh, gawd, I just know that I'm going to get sucked into this trainwreck, if only to see Nene plow down the competition.

    How is azzhole Hatch doing this when he's incarcerated? Day furloughs? Jose's a big 'ol azzhole as well, but he'll always get some :respec from me for being the guy to light the fuse that blew the lid off of baseball's filthy not-little secret - performance-enhancing drug use.

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    Hatch's repeated touching of Cassidy, while certainly not assault, was absolutely unprofessional and inappropriate. Anyone who takes hold of someone's shoulder, steers and pushes them out of the way at a corporate meeting, just because they pipe up with an unwanted suggestion, would at the least receive a warning. And if a man did it to a woman, that warning could be a termination. Of course, there are no such rules on Celebrity Apprentice, where entertainment rules the day.

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    Hatch's repeated touching of Cassidy, while certainly not assault, was absolutely unprofessional and inappropriate.
    Given Hatch's reputation for inappropriate touching in the past, I could see how some of the celebs might have been a bit leery of him laying hands on anyone.

    This is a huge pile of crap when it comes to the personalities. I don't even mean that in a bad way. There are few I would even consider rooting for, but I'm wise enough to know that none of the sane ones will make it to the end (few even to the half way point).

    It appears that we'll be given more arguments/meltdowns, etc. than even Joan Rivers was able to provide us against the poker lady. I'm certainly not seeing much of a hero among the cast.

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    Richard Hatch needs to stop playing Russell from Survivor. Russell has never won Survivor, so Hatch needs to act as if he has a heart beating in his chest if he wants to last much longer. And he needs to eat some major humble pie in the next episode (or four).

    That said, the other men should apologize if they felt something inapprpropriate happened, yet stood back...and did nothing. (Apologies to both Cassidy and Hatch.)

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    But if any of the women mentioned Hatch being gay, I missed it. (which is completely possible. I was watching with a group trying to get them to hush the entire time) I know it wasn't mentioned in the board room, so I'm not clear where Peter's gay bashing comment comes from.
    To deal with the topic of physical abuse by saying "let's beat the crap out of the abuser" is both hypocritical and stupid. I really hope somebody on this shows says something next week about how what went down was wrong. If physical assault occurs, police should be called and the affects of the abuse (bruising, swelling, blood, broke bones, etc.) should be documented and a complaint filed with the police. Physical threats should also be reported and documented.

    As for the gay-bashing comment, if somebody physically assaults a gay person, it's gay-bashing. I imagine it must have been quite uncomfortable for Hatch in that board room after only one person (Cassidy) had mentioned anything to Hatch about any form of inappropriate behaviour (for which Hatch immediately apologized). Then to have most everyone gang up on him... (Hatch's condescending behaviour certainly didn't help him). And then finally to have the "beat the crap out of him" comments come up! It's scary for a single gay male to be surrounded by heterosexual males (some of those straight men larger and stronger than the gay male) and have to sit and listen to them go on about how they want to beat the crap out of him. That whole scene was offensive and inappropriate.

    For the women to later make similar comments was so off-base...none of those women were present to see Hatch do anything, as all the women were off on their own, focussing on their own task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    As for the gay-bashing comment, if somebody physically assaults a gay person, it's gay-bashing.
    Respectfully disagree. The motivation for the assault has to be the victim's (real or perceived - meaning a straight person can be a victim of gay-bashing if the assailant thinks they are gay) sexual orientation for it to be gay bashing. If two people get into it and a straight person clocks a gay person but the argument (and therefore the catalyst for the clocking) had nothing to do with anyone's orientation, it's not a gay-bashing.

    I didn't see the ep, so I have no idea if Canseco was gay-bashing or not, but the threshhold for gay-bashing isn't as simple as a gay person being assaulted.
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    No idea where the thought that Richard Hatch was "gay bashed" or attacked due to his sexuality comes from. No one touched him physically or mentioned his sexual orientation. The only discussion about Canseco possibly reacting to Hatch physically came when Trump asked Hatch if he picked on Cassidy because he was physically small, and then asked Canseco if he thought Hatch would have touched him in a similar manner. Canseco replied, "I would hope not." The talk of bullying was instigated by Trump, due to Hatch's physical touching of a smaller person.

    Whatever your sexual orientation, gay, straight or otherwise, Canseco would not be a person you would physically provoke. Cassidy? Perhaps. Seems if there is a basher in this scenario, it is Hatch.

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    Hatch is behaving in the same obnoxious manner as he has since he came to public attention on Survivor.
    As David Cassidy said; he went to federal prison for lying, cheating, and stealing - and should not be trusted.

    His time in the penal system changed him not at all.
    It likely has only made him more determined - and devious.

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    One thing everyone can agree on is this thread is named perfectly. Thanks, mysticchic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soxxy View Post
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    This group is beyond a trainwreck. LaToya Jackson is probably the most normal one!
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    This statement alone makes me really bummed I missed yesterdays show.
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    OT: A good picture of Ivanka and her husband, whom I'd never seen. He's cute but his tux totally doesn't fit him, unless it's supposed to look that way.

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    I really wanted to see David Cassidy do well on this show and can't believe he's out after the first episode. Trump made the right decision IMO.

    Cassidy really overreacted and blew way out of proportion the fact that Hatch pushed/assaulted him or whatever he accused him of. He came across as being thin-skinned, weak, and almost a prima donna.

    I think it was Hatch who said Cassidy was way out of his league there and I have to agree. Especially the way he couldn't even defend himself effectively in the boardroom without relying on that other guy who got called in there with him. Very disappointing.

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    There is no denying that Richard Hatch is a king-size asshat; but, IMO, David Cassidy outdid Richard in this epsiode (and you wouldn't think it would be an EASY thing to be more obnoxious than Richard Hatch!).

    David was a whiny, little weasal and a lying one to boot. Trump made the right decision.

    So much for "I'm all about the truth" Jose, sitting there lying for David, who most certainly DID take multiple breaks. Jose comes across as a big bully with a HUGE chip on his shoulder. He can go home anytime ... it's not like he's going to bring in any money. He doesn't have any rich friends left in the baseball world who'd give him a dime.

    So, IMO, the next ones to go (for the men) could be Hatch and Jose .. in any order. But, of course, Trump is going to keep at least one of them around for awhile because they are good for the ratings.

    ETA: Since WHEN has LaToya Jackson been known as an "entertainment ICON?" Oh sure, she tried to sing a little and appeared in Playboy, but wasn't she mainly known for being Michael's sister? Really ... an ICON?

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    Hatch was sentenced today to nine months in federal prison (re the ongoing tax issue) which he's to start serving on Monday.

    Of course, Celebrity Apprentice is done filming:

    "Our live finale is still set for May 22," said spokesman Sean Martin, when asked what impact Hatch's imprisonment could have on the show.
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    I reallllly don't like Richard.
    I was saying yesterday that jail did him no good and that maybe he needs to go back, and then boom, he's going back.

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    Didn't hatch withhold taxes for some specific reason...feeling that law was not correct, or objecting to how the government uses tax money or something? Surely he's just not being careless or thinking he can "get away with it" (which is just downright stupid). You can call him many things, but "stupid" is not one of them...
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    I'm so glad I read this thread - I was going to skip this season because I didn't think last season (of the Celeb version) could be beat, but I just watched the episode. AWESOME!!

    The Ladies: Star Jones did a great job leading this team. I love the snark that Lisa Rinna is bringing to the show, but she showed up determined to be a troublemaker. I don't think the late delivery would have been blamed on her if she hadn't questioned the store closing. It was unnecessary from Lisa. I do appreciate her snark, though, so I hope she sticks around for a while. Um......the the random playboy chick say anything the whole episode? Marleee's interpreter got about 12 times the screen time as she did.

    The boyz: So far, John Rich is the star of this team. He was hilarious! Plus, he apparently brought in the big bucks. he and Lil Jon were a great team, and they used Gary Busey well, although his shtick is already wearing thin. The young woman who was crying over having gone into the music biz because of Meatloaf was sweet

    Hatch is and always has been an arrogant ass, but he knows how to command a situation. The Shove was incredibly dismissive, but the disrespect was in how he treated David Cassidy verbally. I'm not going to defend The Shove, but I will say that when David approached Hatch about it (correct thing to do), Richard responded. Jose, OTOH, is a snake oil peddler. He lied in the boardroom about the breaks, and I think everything he said was about getting rid of a thread. He's going to be a problem, and I would bet a bully, something I think he accused Hatch of being.

    Brilliant decision by the director to have David sitting between these two big beefy guys. I never thought of david Cassidy as a short guy, and I'm still not sure (he looked the same height as the guy in the elevator - are Hatch and Conseco giants?) but he looked TINY sitting between those two. And of course Trump is not going to side with a slight guy who doesn't talk over other people. Which makes me a bit , but looking at the episode rather than the boardroom, I think the right person went home.

    Don't know why I never thought of this before, but I wonder how they handle the donations when the target charity isn't determined until the boardroom. I'm assuming these folks giving $40K etc are expecting a tax deduction, but if they are paying upfront, who's it going to? I suppose major donors can give a pledge and they pay the charity directly once they know where it's going? Or else Trump has set up a 501c3 where people can get their tax deduction, and then that entity makes the final donation to the designated charity.
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    I've never watched the show, and had no intention to (Trump is one of those celebrities who I can't stand the sight of), but this thread has me interested.

    Speaking of Jose, when he was on the reality show The Surreal Life, my gaydar went through the roof! This would explain him wanting Richard gone--too close for comfort.

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    Oh, I hate Trump with the fire of a thousand nuns, but this show is interesting. I ised to watch the regular version, didn't watch the first 2 celeb versions, but I heard so much about the Joan Rivers one that I got into the last one. It was EPIC.

    This is one reality show where I think the celeb version is now better than the one with real people - I always had a hard time with the "prize" for the real people because I'm so anti-corporate and VERY anti-Trump But playing for charity and a nothing title of Celeb Apprentice is just fun.
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