sorry snow days
sorry snow days
The mind of the performer is a very strange thing.
I also wish people would stay home when sick and keep their sick kids at home. I always worry about who people are taking my germs or my child's germs home to. Like sick parents, grandparents, siblings etc... You just never know what someone's home situation is like. I keep my kids home as son as i notice they are coming down with something. It's easy for me though, since I am always home. I feel bad for those who have to work and can't take sick time fr themselves, let alone sick kids.
12 days of sick leave per year; accrues without limit. Faculty get up to an additional 13 days per year that does not accrue. (I guess they are all half as healthy as the administrative and service staff. ) Fortunately I seem to have been pretty healthy the past decade or so, as I've accumulated over 100 days of sick leave. I remember when I barely had a week's worth.
10 days of vacation per year to start; increases with longevity (at 3 year intervals) up to max of 25 days; faculty begin at that limit. Accrues to whatever is double one's annual limit (i.e. 50 days at max).
14 paid holidays per year (2 are undesignated "floating holidays" which the employee can use whenever they choose).
Paid funeral leave of up to 3 days for immediate family; 1 day for other family members. Paid leave if on jury duty.
It's fairly generous if you have worked for more than a year or two and don't have small children or a family member with serious on-going health issues. There is a "sick leave bank" that I try to remember to contribute to, but they have really restricted access to this (due to abuse by some for cosmetic surgery procedures. )
I wonder how many of these sick people are telling themselves that they really are okay and that only the conviction is actually keeping them functioning.
This doesn't apply to contagious nasties though. I'd stay home for that!
But really, if I'm on the cusp of feeling terrible, being at work when it really gets bad is the most hopeless feeling ever. I had a terrible reaction to my own hormones once during the work day - dizziness, nausea, chills, was seeing stars - and I felt like I was never ever ever going to get myself home. My boss took one look at me and said I should go, and to this day I have no idea how I walked to the parking lot (takes 10 minutes) and drove home without any incident. I literally felt like I could not see.
Having sick days or personal leave days to care for sick children is a function of a relatively privileged job, at least in the current US workforce. The reason why so many go to work sick is because we don't have those sort of worker protections.
I'm currently very lucky, and I know it's a privilege.
Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like.
We give our employees 6 sick days. But if you come in sick..... will send you home....and we never count days. The policy is in place in the event we feel taken advantage of.
DH - and that's just my opinion
I am hoping that my son and dil feel like they can leave my granddaughter with me when she maybe sick. I know from the years of work when the boys were little that we were always trading places for sick children. i.e. my turn this time, yours the next. That way we could extend the attendance policies to hopefully last through the year.
But in the case of needing a doctor's note if you were sick more than 2 days, it was only your illness, not your child's. so if your child had chickenpox and had to stay out of day care for 7 days, you might take 2 sick days, your spouse 2 sick days and then you are back to your 2 sick days. Now you have incurred 2 illnesses episodes and only have 1 more for the next 12 months. After that you were suspended for 3 days without pay.
American sick day policies on the whole suck.
Based on your statement, I'm almost positive you've never worked in a restaurant, right? Because if there's one place that sick people are made to feel scared for calling in sick, it's a restaurant kitchen. Scary, huh?
The second place is some medical facilities with medical residents. One of my doctors told me about her medical fellowship year in which she got extremely sick and threw up three times in one morning, not from pregnancy. She asked to have the rest of the day off to rest and not get the patients sick. How do think the attending responded?
I am being criticized for staying home sick because I am not dying. I have been feeling crap for about two weeks (mostly lethargic), but now I have a brutal cough, can barely stay awake, but because I am well enough to write detailed coherent sub plans, I should be in with the kids. There's the logic. One sick versus ten or more potentially sick.
My boyfriend at the time did even better--he'd always manage to get some horrible bug that drove his temp up to 104 or so and then he'd take the finals with his brain steaming and ace it. The guy was made of steel.
"Nature is a damp, inconvenient sort of place where birds and animals wander about uncooked."
from Speedy Death
One place I worked even had a company-wide meeting, demanding that people were calling in sick too much. They said we'd better be on our death bed before even thinking of calling in sick. When someone mentioned the contagious thing, the manager flippantly told us that by the time symtoms arrived, we'd already passed the germs around, so it didn't matter by then anyway.
One place my friend's DH worked, he was written up for calling in sick. He was then told any further sick leave had to be scheduled in advance.
One thing I really hate is at the grocery store, when the clerk is sniffing and snotting her way through my groceries as she scans them and sends them on their merry way to the bagger, who sometimes is sniffing and and snotting their way through my selections as they bag my stuff.
The one that really chapped my hide was the nursing home my Mom was in at the end of the year last year (she came home for good on January 1). During her stay, one of the PT's had a bad cold (though she did wear a mask when she was in the PT gym). Mom's OT was out for a week with a cold, but came in later on when she was still feeling awful. Mom's PT was "coming down with something" as she put Mom through her paces. She kept sneezing into the crook of her elbow all throughout the sessions. Mom has CoPD, and having sick people around her like that just really pissed me off. How many people in that place are on oxygen, and you're letting sick people work around them? Even on her last day, the CNA who helped us pack up was sick and sneezing and coughing. Thank goodness Mom never came down with anything. But I kept a good eye on the stuff the CNA touched, and wiped it down with antibacterial wipes when she wasn't looking. I took extra precautions by washing my hands repeatedly after touching any of Mom's things (since I didn't know what all the CNA had touched). I also had to wipe down her wheelchair handles after the CNA pushed Mom out of the room, then turned the wheelchair over to me at the nurse's station for discharge.
Last edited by Flatfoote; 02-16-2011 at 12:56 AM.
Yeah, I think the grad student used to work someplace that was a lot harsher. I think she believes that she's always on her own and that nobody will make an exception for her, which is commendable since she's doing grad school full-time while juggling two kids and not complaining, but put pneumonia on top of that and it's just sad if she doesn't believe she can ask for help then.
The restaurant and medical examples you gave are just FRIGHTENING. And some people wonder why we don't trust our healthcare system now.
California here. I stay home with the kids and my hubby works. Whatever hubby brings home on his paycheck is what we get. Period. No government help what so ever. Hubby works in trucking. He's an operations manager which is 2nd in charge of the entire facility. Here's what he gets now that it's his 3rd year with the company: 10 vacation days and 3 personal day. NO sick days. If you're sick you have to use up either vacation or personal day. The Friday after Thanksgiving is used up as a personal or vacation day too.
It really depends on the company and the boss. Where hubby's at he's expected to show up, and if he's not there then he better be in a hospital bed with an IV stuck in his arm. That said, the company he works for is still considered one of the best in trucking.
Note to supervisors:
As you can see from the thread, many people are afraid to call in sick and will continue to work unless they get permission to stay home.
If you have such authority, it is your responsibility to say to an obviously ill employee, "You're clearly very sick and need to be home recovering. It's in your best interest and the best interest of everyone else too." All your employees, foremost the sick person, will thank you for it.
Anita18, was your supervisor there? If so, s/he should have said something.