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    Kulik trying to open training rink(school) in Orange County (CA)

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/ice-2...ik-school.html

    I'm not clear from the article -- is Kulik planning to become a coach?

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    A rink in Lake Forest would be great. When I was in school in Irvine, I had to drive to Anaheim or Aliso Viejo to skate.

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    This is really interesting. The owner of the Ice Palace in Aliso Viejo is opening up a new training rink in Lake Forest (there have been a couple of articles about this in the OC Register lately), and then just a mile away Ilia Kulik is also opening a training rink.

    There's a great demographic here, but I'm wondering if that's enough to support two rinks that close together.

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    That's really interesting. I don't think there would be enough support for two rinks like that, so close together. Where I am, I think we've got the nearest rink for miles. The closest I think are Oxnard and Burbank, both a half an hour drive... In Irvine I was more than willing to drive to Anaheim or Aliso Viejo, it was just a total pain. Anaheim also has, what, 2, 3 rinks? So...

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    Hm....maybe that explains Vasiliev's planned trip to CA.
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    Yes, Ilia is opening his own training facility.

    It remains to be seen how the two rinks will serve the need in the area. Ilia's project, called Kulik's Skating, has been in the planning stage for a while (and Ilia has discussed it privately) and is intended to be a training facility for figure skating only. The other rink is being planned for hockey and figure skating. Neither rink is a public facility (no public skates, no walking in and just hanging out).

    Ilia's rink will be used (he plans) by other coaches and their students and also by Ilia as he transitions, over a period of time, into coaching. Full-time coaching is his future (as he has said before) but it is not his present. He has confirmed to me that he still will do shows that fit into his teaching schedule (he will teach classes there as he does during the summer in Flims, Switzerland) and individual coaching. It will be a gradual migration to full-time coaching.

    Tomorrow evening (as the article says) is the Lake Forest Planning Commission meeting and (hopefully) with his building permits in hand, Ilia has his plans and contractors ready to go to convert the space (which is a warehouse now) including re-bracing the roof so they can take out the vertical supports where the ice space is going.

    There will be much more about Kulik's Skating as Ilia gets rolling but those permits are essential and Ilia has not wanted to publicize it (though he is both excited and committed to this new path) until he had those in hand and the contractors actually at work. If the town approves his plans (and the questions, including a use survey he had to do, are more about parking than anything else), then it's happening. He already has the building under lease and the refrigeration system (he is very particular about providing the best ice to figure skaters) has been designed. His refrigeration guru is Art Sutherland of the prominent Canadian firm, Accent Refrigeration. Everything is poised for the 'go ahead.' Fingers crossed for tomorrow evening! There will be a lot of press about Kulik's Skating when he is given the nod to move forward.
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    What a great news! I hope "figure skating only" approach work for both rinks. I heard that the original plan of Danny Kwan at the East West Ice Palace was to make it a figure skating only facility, but he had to bring hokey in because otherwise he couldn't keep the business. Recently he bought the rink in Ontario, so he might be doing well with the EWIP.

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    I hope "figure skating only" approach work for both rinks.
    Of the two new rinks, Kulik's Skating is the only one which has plans for "figure skating only" as the other rink was clear in their application that they will have a hockey program. As many folks know, perfect figure skating ice is a little too soft for hockey and so I'm hoping that catering to figure skaters will offer Ilia an edge with that group. In most rinks, the ice is calibrated for hockey and figure skaters put up with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willowway View Post
    As many folks know, perfect figure skating ice is a little too soft for hockey and so I'm hoping that catering to figure skaters will offer Ilia an edge with that group. In most rinks, the ice is calibrated for hockey and figure skaters put up with it.
    Very true.

    On the other hand, when you compete around the world (or around the country), you rarely have perfect ice to skate on. I understand that in Canton, Zoueva and Shpilband resurface the ice infrequently, so that their dancers can learn to deal with rutted ice.

    Regardless, I wish Ilia well with this new venture. I've read about his coaching in Switzerland and have heard positive feedback about seminars that he's given. It sounds like he has a lot to offer as a coach.

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    This is exciting - an opportunity to pass-on his legacy which, of course, also means the legacy of TAT.
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    Passing on the legacy is a very important part of this and Ilia has stated that many times. TAT is of course a part.

    What I think is equally or perhaps more significant is passing on the mind bendingly good jump technique that Kudriavtsev taught to Ilia. As Scott said during the 1998 Olympic broadcast, it is "pure" and Boitano echoed that when he said "he jumps like a god." Even TAT when Ilia went to her was smart enough to continue to ask VK for jump advice for Ilia as she coached because she understood that technical jump technique wasn't her strongest suit - now that's good coaching (getting the best in every department for your skater). And Viktor continued to give great advice so the triples were solid in Nagano and yes, the quad was there. Ilia has so much to pass along to another generation and he is more than willing to do it. Ilia has even talked recently about how much he continues to learn from Viktor in terms of coaching, patience with students, etc. when they work together every summer. Viktor is one of those non-flashy, amazing technical coaches and isn't it great that there is someone, Ilia, who takes VK's legacy to skating (not that VK has left yet!) very seriously. You're right about that!
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    This is fantastic news. I wish Ilia the very best of success in this venture. He will be a fantastic full time coach when he decides not to skate any more. For those who know him they know he has the perfect personality to make a go of it. Also it gives great stability for his family and with Katia available to help they can do both singes and pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willowway View Post
    What I think is equally or perhaps more significant is passing on the mind bendingly good jump technique that Kudriavtsev taught to Ilia.
    This.

    I hope everything works out for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChibiChibi View Post
    What a great news! I hope "figure skating only" approach work for both rinks. I heard that the original plan of Danny Kwan at the East West Ice Palace was to make it a figure skating only facility, but he had to bring hokey in because otherwise he couldn't keep the business. Recently he bought the rink in Ontario, so he might be doing well with the EWIP.
    Do you have a link to this news? Are you talking about Center Ice? I new it was under new management, but was not aware that Danny Kwan purchased it.

    I never understood why they built Center Ice, when it's so close to Ontario Ice Skating (on Holt). Two ice arenas within 5 miles in the Ontario area is a LOT of skating for this area.

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    nevermind - I had the wrong article. I don't know anything about Danny Kwan's business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willowway View Post
    nevermind - I had the wrong article. I don't know anything about Danny Kwan's business.
    Actually, I didn't think you mentioned Danny Kwan at all, my post was directed to someone else (ChibiChibi).

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    will katia be there coaching with him? I have a dream of having her choreograph a number for me one day ( when I can actually DO some of it!!! and when I have the extra money to do so ) lol
    that would be some school!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by loopey View Post
    Do you have a link to this news? Are you talking about Center Ice? I new it was under new management, but was not aware that Danny Kwan purchased it.

    I never understood why they built Center Ice, when it's so close to Ontario Ice Skating (on Holt). Two ice arenas within 5 miles in the Ontario area is a LOT of skating for this area.
    Loopey, sorry I don't have a link to this news, but this is well known news in the So Cal skating community. I've never been to the rinks in Ontario, so I don't know the name of the rink, but it's the bigger one.

    Back to Ilia, it'd be great if Katia is involved in this project, and she will have a training program for pairs!!

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    I don't live in the area, but work just blocks from it... (I laive across the country.. yes it's a long commute )

    If one of these has evening "open" skate I might just haul my skates out of storage and move them to OC!

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    I hope this works out for Ilia (and Katia, if she's involved with it too)!

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