I'm seriously laughing at reply 239 and 240 lol
I'm seriously laughing at reply 239 and 240 lol
I thought that type of stuff was more pronounced in the coverage of the US skaters, but maybe that's because I'm in the US and saw more of the Access Hollywood type fluff covering American skaters. But as a non-Canadian, I didn't see that coming out of Skate Canada at all. I do remember Elvis making a lot of comments about sequins and things, but, well, it's Elvis.
If that is really one of the reasons Buttle retired then how incredibly stooooopid of them, because he would've been a bigtime contender for gold. And good for him if he stood up for himself. That whole story is sickening, if true.
Is LC posting at Datalounge, because that comment about banning gay posters sounds like something that would come from him.
Logic is in the eye of the logician --Gloria Steinem
They called Adam a "twink". I assume that's not a good thing.
I would have been here sooner, but the bus kept stopping for other people to get on it. - Sheldon Cooper, The Big Bang Theory
I've read the whole thread (plus "Homophobia in figure skating") and I'm really amused . Even though I feel for some of the skaters mentioned there (poor Rachael!).
The comment on banning gay members on FSU did crack me up . The same with a comment on Sasha Cohen that she's a "female Boitano"...
"For the Gala I recommend Johnny Weir VS Evan Lysacek in mud wrestling. Come on, it would put ratings through the roof!"
A crap program without transitions does not equal straight.
People who didn't like Weir's skating are not automatically homophobes. Don't assume the annoyance with him is over his sexual orietnation. It could be, shockingly!, over what he actually does on the ice. Or, you know, people who don't believe that "just being honest!" is all nice and refreshing, instead of rude and sometimes assholic.
Weir annoyed me for years because of his lack of progress, by his zzz programs, by the fact that he kept doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results (does he know how to count to three?) ... oh and because he played a damn game with the media over his sexual orientation, which pisses me off as someone who's had to deal with both the closet and how terrifying it can be to come out of it: it's not a game, dammit. this shit gets people hurt.
I was a Weir fan. He lost me with what he did on the ice. And he kept me lost with what he did off of it. For the last couple years, it's like he hasn't even wanted to compete, he just wanted to use his career to boost his fashion/off-ice career/whatever. It's all Johnny Weir The Brand. That's nice and all, but that's not why I watch figure skating. I ain't interested in Celebrity For The Sake Of Being A Celebrity.
But, mostly, it's his zzzz programs with music so boring a hyperactive fish woudl fall asleep, the lack of choreography, the lack of transitions, and the way his jumps and everything else just degraded.
Oh, and AfterElton pissed me off during the Olympics for being all "Weir is so persecuted! Because he's gay! And no one else could possibly be an artist and no we've never heard of Abbott" Also, all the people who decided Weir was gay, not because of any notion that he fit the definition, but because he fit the Fabulous Gay Stereotype.
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The Junior Grand Prix: Where skaters who "come out of nowhere" come from.
Thanks for sharing..I was ...thought I heard it all but Michelle Republikwan?
Michelle Republikwan Love it!
Yes I know he beat them at Nationals - but that in itself is highly questionable - seeing that his PCS were way beyond what he ever received internationally and the others were either on par or below for the most part - no Nats inflation. I would have rather seen either of the other 2 go and I am sure either of them would have done far better at the Olympics.
However, I watched a great deal of coverage and don't remember a ton of them talking about their sexuality in public - other than the talk of Scott and Jessica dating and NOT Scott and Tessa.
Such smugness, such self-righteousness, such protestations. Yes, so other than Johnny being a zzzzz math-challenged, Fabulous Gay Sterotype Celeb Fashionista with boring music, crap programs, degraded jumps and delusional fans, what is it about him that really pisses you off and makes you go bonkers?
I don't think your namesake is as intolerant of Johnny as you are. Yep, plenty of other gay male skaters who know how to keep a low profile and conform to what is expected. And now that Johnny Weir has gone through the fire and paid the heavy price for being too rebellious and too outspoken and too out there (yes, Lanna, this shit does hurt alright), there's been a kind of loosening of the strictures and macho pretenses. Of course there's always been a down low acceptance of being gay in fs because there simply are a lot of gay people in the sport. Post Johnny Weir, there is a more relaxed attitude toward "flamboyant" costumes and expressing one's creativity on the ice so long as you're not Johnny Weir and you keep your personal life underwraps off the ice.