"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”– MLK
A very picturesque and romantic proposal
Carlisle to the Dowager Countess: "I doubt we will see each other again
Dowager: "Do you promise?"
I like this episode better. Even carlisle shows a human moment when he leaves
Anna is so sharp and observant she really should be Mrs Hughes' successor
She really deserves better than Bates imho
Thomas is really too dumb to lie or do anuthing underhand
I am glad that DAisy gets some good advice for once from W's dad
Mary's problems are getting old
Poor Edith again...sigh
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This episode was sort of like a reunion of Hornblower actors: William's dad, Edith's old suitor and Bates' solicitor, all Hornblower alumni.
I don't understand how the prosecutor at the trial knew to ask the questions he asked. How would he have known, for example, the comment Bates had made to Lord Grantham about "the late Mrs. Bates?" Who would have told him that? He seemed with all three witnesses to be fishing for particular answers, and I don't see how he could have known about them except from Bates. If so, then in the words of a previous poster, Bates really is too dumb to live.
Maggie Smith got all the best lines.
Thomas is lucky that Isis didn't bite him in the ass. This is why animals are better than people!
That Ouija board scene with Mrs. P was hilarious, largely due to the expression on Thomas'face
I'm happy Daisy finally has found peace with her relationship with William. The exchange between her and William's father (and the Dowager Countess) was very sweet.
I'd like to see a little more development of Thomas's love life in the coming season. Being gay in this time period would lead to an entire extra level of intrigue
Plus, he's all sorts of so that would make it all the more worth watching.
A softer side to Ms. O'Brien?
Though the scene between Lord Robert and a mush disheveled Thomas kind of made the former look like a doofus. After all of Thomas' shenanigans, one would have thought that LR would smell something fishy.
Dame Maggie's comments after the library fight = &
I hope Thomas has learned his lesson about these Marx-Brothers-worthy wacky hijinx. He's failed miserably as a blackmailer, a draft dodger, a black marketeer, and now as dognapper (though that one paid off, through sheer dumb luck.) The Crowleys, particularly the Earl, have shown themselves over and over to be forgiving employers to the point of absurdity at times. If he GENUINELY straightens up his act, he could wind up a valet as let's face it, Bates is not coming back one way or another (if only out of his own stupid pride.)
Thomas also has two problems with his love life: one, he's gay, and two, he's a servant. The Crowleys, again, were VERY understanding about Bates and Anna, but that's unusual circumstances and they were planning to leave eventually.
I want to be the Dowager Countess when I grow up.
I have been wondering when Daisy would get some recognition. She is clearly not doing a scullery maid's work any more (letting a scullery maid cook would be like letting the dishwasher expedite a dinner service, just not a good plan.) But she also isn't especially assertive.
I have to add: Apparently the spirits of Downton are the fastest spellers in the history of Ouija boards.
Lady Violet made an obeservation at one point that Edith wanted to keep on nursing, even after the war ended.
You know, I decided that Bates problem is that too much of Grantham has rubbed off on him. He's too honorable for his station in life. He has no power to back it up.
An older friend said that Lady Sybil reminded him of the young Elizabeth Taylor. I'm not sure I've seen enough of young Elizabeth's films to agree or disagree.
lady sybil looks exactly like my friend mary and all 6 (yes 6) of her children incl the boys. however, mary hates the show because "pamuk raped mary."
oh the things you learn about people but never would have known if they hadnt invented facebook
does it matter if sir anthony is 1 handed if he gets an octogenarian to make his tea?
I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!
Bates's problem appeared to be that 1. he didn't understand the meaning of "you do not have to say anything" (the caution they gave him was authentic) and his/Lord Grantham's solicitor (the lawyer speaking to them--the ones representing him actively in the trial are called barristers and the solicitor engaged them; I don't know if THEY could speak to prosecution witnesses) did NOT explain to Robert, O'Brien, and Mrs. Hughes that while you must answer honestly you NEVER EVER volunteer more information than is asked for. All Robert, for example, had to say was he remembered Bates saying he wished she were the ex-Mrs. Bates. If the Crown pressed the point (clearly they had some idea about it, as apparently no one told Bates about his right not to incriminate himself) he only had to say that's what he remembered Bates saying. Which is true. Just selective.
Frankly I'm surprised they apparently convinced Anna pretty fast not to testify (spousal privilege is absolute--it doesn't matter what they want to ask her about, the Crown can't call her--but she COULD volunteer to testify for the defence. That would open it up for the Crown to cross, though.) I was half-expecting her to demand to be allowed to try and prove his innocence.
Heck, apparently it never occurred to Mary, and Robert and Matthew didn't know at the time, to tell them about the arrangement with Sir Richard, but then again that leaves Mary open to scandal. Huh, while Mary isn't exactly educated in law and it might not have occurred to her, it might have occurred to Sir Richard while he was killing the story that HE knew quite a bit about Vera and what sort of person she was. But then he risks 'outing' Mary...plus either Anna and Bates didn't tell the solicitor or there is absolutely no evidence that Vera was the real thief. But really, no one from his old regiment remembered his nutty wife who also fooled around? No one thought to bring up her current infidelity (which Bates knew about as he was using it as grounds for the divorce) to show Vera was an unstable loon who might well have killed herself, which is what the defence should have been doing. Bates not explaining what a nut she was is taking not speaking ill of the dead way too far.
I was surprised and pleased by Mary and Matthew becoming engaged at the end.
Ended the season on a good note. But something will probably go wrong next season, unless they want to bring their children into to show so they can be killed off in WW2.
I really thought Bates would be hung. I was happy but surprised when he wasn't.
Did you see the background special after the show was over?
Most of the actors were interviewed and it showed scene's being shot.
I was most surprised to learn that Dour Branson, was a outgoing funny adorable guy in real life. For that matter, so was Sibil. She was so funny talking about how she couldn't wait for them to kiss. By the way, she is even twice as Beautiful in real life.
It was a lot of fun. I can't wait until next season, does anyone know when it is supposed to start?
Oh, and I was so afraid that something was going to happen to Isis!