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    I agree he was a fraud and split when he saw that he was not successfully convining anyone but Edith.

    Jeez - Edith can't catch a break when it comes to her love life.

    They've set up so many things in this episode that will surely reverberate in future episodes: 1) Vera's death 2) Matthew "feels something below", 3) Sir Richard's threat over Mary, 4) Sybil and the chauffeur's growing relationship. It's like suddenly everything is much "soapier" than before. Lacking in the gentle finesse that I so enjoyed. But it's still worth watching.
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    I know the heir's the the thing and all, but I'n really tired of this Matthew/Mary storyline (will they/won't they, is he/isn't he). Neither one of them has a scintillating personality or is particulary likeable, and the times are a changing so all this tradition is becoming irrelevant. I find the plots involving the younger daughters more interesting, but they seemed doomed to minor roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my little pony View Post
    i'm assuming fraud, i was hoping he was real
    But even if you had a head injury following the sinking of the Titanic wouldn't you wake up and still speak with a British accent? Even after a few years in Canada the accent would still be there. I thought he was a fraud for this reason.

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    The acquisition or loss of an accent usually depend on the age of the person at the time of the change. If he was in his 20's or older, then yes, he should have kept his original accent, or at least traces of it. If he was younger, he would have most likely lost his original accent.
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    It could also be that he has no confidence in the family's interest in discovering the truth, and may reappear with a court challenge to the will when the patriarch dies.

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    Of course, I looked away from the screen right when the "heir" made the gesture that caught the Earl's eye. What was it, and did we see any indication that it was purposeful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by znachki View Post
    Of course, I looked away from the screen right when the "heir" made the gesture that caught the Earl's eye. What was it, and did we see any indication that it was purposeful?
    It seemed an indication that Matthew might have felt something in his lower body. He started to say something and then stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znachki View Post
    Of course, I looked away from the screen right when the "heir" made the gesture that caught the Earl's eye. What was it, and did we see any indication that it was purposeful?
    Quote Originally Posted by aliceanne View Post
    It seemed an indication that Matthew might have felt something in his lower body. He started to say something and then stopped.
    I think znachki was referring to the gesture that "Peter/Patrick Gordon" made -- i.e. a sort of wiping/swiping of his upper lip with his finger/hand. From his reaction, I took it to be a gesture that Lord Grantham recalled Patrick doing and thus something that would support his story and claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliceanne View Post
    It seemed an indication that Matthew might have felt something in his lower body. He started to say something and then stopped.
    No, not that one, that I caught. When Grantham is talking to Gordon, he made some gesture (I think) and the Earl said something like - where did you learn to do that?

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    But Peter could have seen Patrick do it and work it into his "act." Whatever the outcome: Will Edith EVER find love? It must be hard to be sandwiched between sisters that SNL referred to as hot and very hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znachki View Post
    No, not that one, that I caught. When Grantham is talking to Gordon, he made some gesture (I think) and the Earl said something like - where did you learn to do that?
    It looked like he ran his index finger over his lower lip. Perhaps Patrick had a habit of doing that?

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    So let me get this straight:

    Peter met Patrick on the Titanic and they became friendly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cachoo View Post
    But even if you had a head injury following the sinking of the Titanic wouldn't you wake up and still speak with a British accent? Even after a few years in Canada the accent would still be there. I thought he was a fraud for this reason.
    A bit off topic. I work with a man (now a quadraplegic) who is American but went to a Spanish speaking country for a couple of years. A few years after he came home he was in a terrible car crash and in a coma for some time. When he came out of the coma he could only speak Spanish. He had to re-learn his English. The strangest things can happen with head injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BittyBug View Post
    Plus, if he were real he probably would have stuck around a little longer. Seems like once all the talk of London attorneys investigating him came up, he split.
    I think he'll be back. I'm wondering how much is going to be left hanging when these episodes are over. Aren't they making more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliceanne View Post
    It looked like he ran his index finger over his lower lip. Perhaps Patrick had a habit of doing that?
    Thanks!

    Re Peter/Patrick - I thought they worked together, or something. It's quite possible that even if he was an imposter, that it didn't actually know it. Traumatic head injury and all.

    I'm sure that he'll be back eventually. If not, that was really nothing more than filler. Which seems unlikely.

    On another subject. That new maid is trouble. Grantham is looking at her a bit too closely...

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    Quote Originally Posted by znachki View Post

    On another subject. That new maid is trouble. Grantham is looking at her a bit too closely...

    Yes, he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelleC View Post
    Yes, he is.
    Oh, I'm sure he's just taking a "fatherly" interest in her and her son.

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    I thought he was also. An Affair with a maid? Getting more soapy by the minute.
    I think Peter/Patrick is a fraud. He ran pretty fast when he knew that they had found out that he was a friend of Patrick.
    I have been thinking lately that Cora is changing and not for the better.
    The first season she seemed like a sweet person, now she seems cold and unfeeling where others are concerned. I am not liking her so much now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latte View Post
    I have been thinking lately that Cora is changing and not for the better.The first season she seemed like a sweet person, now she seems cold and unfeeling where others are concerned. I am not liking her so much now.
    Well, she's got three daughters to get married off, and I think that is part of what is driving her. That, and the fact that she's got Satan - in the guise of O'Brien whispering in her ear all the time

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