I need to start watching Upstairs/Downstairs. I saw the most recent reboot and it was very good. Extremely similar to DA storylines, though.
And I enjoy schadenfreude as much as the next person (like seeing the look on O'Brien's face when she realizes that Cora is NOT about to fire everyone for theft and in fact's going to start giving them Downton's food) but yeah, I just really don't care what happens to Ethel. She's like the anti-Gwen--Gwen decided she wanted something more than being a maid, she worked for it, and yeah, had a lucky break via Sibyl, but only because she'd put in the effort. Ethel just thinks she's too good for this but someone should just...make her a star 'cause.
Downton, otoh, starts off fresh.
Of course the scandal-that-wasn't-really-a-scandal could also evolve in some way to take Lavinia out.
Speaking of inheritance laws ... I wonder how it would work if any of the girls had sons before the Earl died. Would they be in line to inherit, even with Matthew still in the picture?
The political parties were a little different. At least pre-war, a lot of the American fascist movement were like the American pro-Soviets, they got the political philosophy but missed the genocide. If anything they knew even less, as at that point the Nazis were keeping things like the death squads on the downlow, while there were American writers who went to the Soviet Union and SAW the victims of orchestrated famines and deportations and wrote it off as 'Sure, it LOOKS bad but Comrade Stalin must know what he is doing and if he says they had to die, well...' (Stalin had groupies, too. Maybe it's a moustache thing.) There's a reason the American Fascist movement faded rather fast at the end of the war when the scale of what the Nazis were doing and things like the film of Dachau's liberation became public. Flags, flashy rallies and spiffy uniforms and nationalist racial rhetoric (however illogical that is in a country with a population that's entirely immigrant if you go back far enough) are all fun and games, finding out the guy you're modeling it on was also a-okay with gassing small children is another matter.
Unity and Diana Mitford were the sisters most "obsessed" with Hitler.
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Sorry for this indulgence--I guess issues in DA coupled with our current situation of the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer has me thinking about history beyond WWI. It certainly was an interesting century.
They brought Ethel back because this is one huge conservative wet dream morality play - and this liberal is totally hooked, lol!
have sex before marriage? your lover will die, no decent man will want you or you'll get pregnant
Also, homosexuals = evil deviants.
Yet I truly enjoy the show, even though some moments are ridiculously over the top. Such as miscarrying because you slipped on a 1/2 bar of soap that your evil maid told you wasn't there because she thought you were going to sack her.
Can't wait for episode 4 on Sunday!
"Puccini cries out for spirals, but really good ones." ~ Dick Button, 1998 Worlds
Well, this was a half-a-box of kleenex episode.
Charter member of the "We Always Believed in Ashley" Club and the "We Believe in Ricky" Club
Ugh, why is Daisy being such a witch? Poor William is dying and and she won't agree to marry him on his deathbed? It's not as if she would have to be wed to him for the rest of her life. Maybe she will change her mind.
Thank goodness, she did go through with it.
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that is the only time a wedding ever made me cry
it was also sad when molesley thought he was going to be the new bates and then bates came back
thomas and obrien are almost cartoonish in their eville ways, there's no rhyme or reason
I feel like I'm in a dream. But it can't be a dream because there are no boy dancers!
I was really angry about Daisy being pressured to marry William - I don't like seeing someone coerced to go against their conscience, even if I understand the logic those individuals were following. I think my irritation was influenced heavily by the fact that the reason the entire situation existed in the FIRST place was Daisy being pressured earlier to let William think she liked him more than she did and that she was his "sweetheart" on the now obviously faulty logic that "what harm could it do?" Well, this is the harm. That little white lie spiraled into a very unfair situation.