I am excited about the prospect of Cora's mother arriving on the scene. I always thought it was very odd that there was never any mention of her family - not even a hint as to the source of her family's wealth that qualified Cora as a marital prospect for Sir Robert. Also, maybe they will introduce some rich American as a possible husband for Edith.
Can't see Sybil being happy with her marital prospect....
Mrs. Patmore was very wrong to push Daisy into any type of situation with William when she, Mrs. Patmore, knew Daisy was against it. I give Daisy alot of credit for expressing her feelings while being bullied by her superior. Sweet of William to think of Daisy and the pension she would receive from him as his widow.
Oh, barf, more of Ethel's whining in the future????
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PBS Downtown Abbey press release:Ms. MacLaine will play a new character, Martha Levinson, the mother of Lady Grantham (Elizabeth McGovern).
Poor William, I will miss him, sniff sniff and Matthew never saw that coming. Sad episode. The dowager was at her best as usual.
I keep wondering about the Turkish gentleman scandal thing. I mean, there's a war going on, this incident happened years ago (like 1913 or 1914?), and the world was changing. I'm not sure if it would have the same impact. Depending on what's going on around the world, this scandal might end up being a blip in the news, though of course, still hurt Mary to some extent.
Can't the writers come up with another possible threat to the family? This is getting old
I also wonder why Bates is so willing to give in to his wife. So far we only see Bates' side of the story, and I doubt in any marriage, one side is at fault and not the other
It still has the power to threaten the family's standing in society, although it seems that Sir Richard's posting of his/Mary's engagement has thwarted Vera Bates' plans to ruin the family (but not her husband).Can't the writers come up with another possible threat to the family? This is getting oldI'm not sure what you mean by "giving in" -- it was her threat to expose Mary's tryst with Pamuk that kept him from immediately divorcing her. In season 1 he revealed why he had gone to jail for her theft (he said that after returning injured from the Boer War, he had been drinking heavily and felt that he had failed to be a good husband).I also wonder why Bates is so willing to give in to his wife. So far we only see Bates' side of the story, and I doubt in any marriage, one side is at fault and not the other
But it's still a story from Mr. Bates' perspective. The writers haven't covered his wife other than her coming to make trouble. WHy does she hate him so much that she can have affairs and he can't, and she has to threaten him as soon as she finds out?if she hates him that much why leave him alone in the first place (allowing him the chance to be back with Anna)? Too many little holes in this, IMHO
article from Sept. -- I don't think there are any spoilers in it for how much has been broadcast here in the US):Of course, this mainly is conjecture, because not many details of their pre-Downton relationship are actually given. But it's still interesting, imo.‘Yes, Vera is a dreadful woman,’ says Maria Doyle Kennedy, the Irish actress who plays her. ‘She didn’t want him for herself until she heard about his feelings for Anna, and if there’s one thing Vera can’t bear, it is the thought of John finding happiness with someone else.’ Vera was Bates’ childhood sweetheart, but after they married they soon found they were mismatched and went their separate ways. When she learnt of his relationship with Anna, she turned up unexpectedly at Downton to tell him on no account would she give him a divorce.
They have a long and eventful history that will unravel itself in time,’ says Maria, 47. ‘I think when they originally got together they were very much in love and probably quite a passionate couple. They’re both fiery and she seems to bring out that side of him.
‘Then it went badly wrong. He wondered why they didn’t have children. Did something happen? Of course he has a history of drinking too. Vera and John clearly had a very close bond at one stage, and she can push his buttons easily. She still has a tremendous hold over him and she’s going to use it.
One thing I'm happy about is that Lavinia's character is not a Mrs. Bates in nicer clothing. I like that she honestly loves Matthew. Though of course I want to see Matthew and Lady Mary together.
I still think Matthew is too morally pure for Mary. A year after they were married she would be bored to death. The only thing that keeps it going is that she can't have him.