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    Bumping this thread up in time for Worlds.

    ISU World Standings points available for Worlds (from ISU Comm. 1629):

    Placement, Points
    1. 1200
    2. 1080
    3. 972
    4. 875
    5. 787
    6. 709
    7. 638
    8. 574
    9. 517
    10. 465
    11. 418
    12. 377
    13. 339
    14. 305
    15. 275
    16. 247
    17. 222
    18. 200
    19. 180
    20. 162
    21. 146
    22. 131
    23. 118
    24. 106

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    Since Europeans will be next week, I'm just bumping up this thread.

    ISU Communication 1685 contains the lists of federations entitled to multiple entries and/or direct entries at the 2012 ISU Championships (2012 Euros, 2012 4CC, 2012 Jr. Worlds, 2012 Worlds).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisWeirness View Post
    ISU Communication 1685 contains the lists of federations entitled to multiple entries and/or direct entries at the 2012 ISU Championships (2012 Euros, 2012 4CC, 2012 Jr. Worlds, 2012 Worlds).
    And for those with Kiss and Cry access, the multiple slots and direct entry numbers are also posted separately in the individual forums for Euros, 4CC, Jr Worlds, and Worlds.

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    Bumping this thread since this question has been asked a lot today:

    Q: How does the ISU determine how many entries each nation gets to ISU Championships?
    A: Every nation gets at least one entry in each discipline to all ISU Championships, as long as the competitors have met the Minimum Total Technical Score (more about this below.)

    The minimum total technical score is not required for entry to the Junior World Championships.

    1. For the European Championships (Euros), Junior Worlds (JW) and the World Championships (Worlds), the number of entries per nation is based upon how well that nation's skater(s) finished at the same Championship in the preceding season.

    Nations accumulate points equal to the sum of placements of their competitors who were entered in the preceding season's Championships.

    Points
    20 points: competitors that do not qualify for the Short Program (SP) or Short Dance (SD)
    18 points: singles and dance competitors that qualify for the SP but do not qualify for the Free Skate (FS). Pairs that finish 18th or lower in the SP.
    17 points: Pairs that finish 17th in the SP.
    16 points: competitors who qualified for the FS but did not place higher than 16th place.
    X points: competitors that finished in Xth place, as long as X < 16.

    If the nation entered 3 competitors, than only the sum of the best-placed 2 placements are considered.

    When 2 skaters are considered for points,
    sum of 13 points or less results in 3 entries for the next year's Championships
    sum of 14-28 points results in 2 entries for the next year's Championships

    When only 1 skater competes for a nation,
    2 points or less (first or second place) results in 3 entries for the next year's Championships
    10 points or less (finish 3rd - 10th place) results in 2 entries for the next year's Championships

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    TOP 24 ISU RANKINGS and SEASONS BEST STATISTICS after WORLDS

    Note that the ISU Rankings will change soon after 2009-2010 data is purged and 2010-2011 data is reduced to 70% of its value. I'm not sure when this will happen.


    MEN

    SEASONS BEST SCORES

    1 273.94 Patrick CHAN
    2 261.23 Evgeni PLUSHENKO
    3 259.75 Daisuke TAKAHASHI
    4 251.06 Yuzuru HANYU
    5 250.33 Javier FERNANDEZ
    6 246.27 Artur GACHINSKI
    7 244.58 Brian JOUBERT
    8 243.03 Florent AMODIO
    9 239.55 Michal BREZINA
    10 238.82 Jeremy ABBOTT
    11 235.02 Takahiko KOZUKA
    12 229.70 Denis TEN
    13 227.11 Nobunari ODA
    14 226.75 Nan SONG
    15 225.36 Tomas VERNER
    16 224.89 Samuel CONTESTI
    17 223.23 Ross MINER
    18 222.45 Han YAN
    19 221.97 Joshua FARRIS
    20 221.55 Adam RIPPON
    21 217.20 Kevin REYNOLDS
    22 217.16 Takahito MURA
    23 214.90 Jason BROWN
    24 214.04 Kevin VAN DER PERREN



    ISU WORLD RANKINGS

    CHAN Patrick 1
    TAKAHASHI Daisuke 2
    BREZINA Michal 3
    HANYU Yuzuru 4
    GACHINSKI Artur 5
    KOZUKA Takahiko 6
    ABBOTT Jeremy 7
    ODA Nobunari 8
    AMODIO Florent 9
    VERNER Tomas 10
    FERNANDEZ Javier 11
    CONTESTI Samuel 12
    JOUBERT Brian 13
    VAN DER PERREN Kevin 14
    RIPPON Adam 15
    TEN Denis 16
    MAJOROV Alexander 17
    MACHIDA Tatsuki 18
    MINER Ross 19
    PREAUBERT Alban (retired) 20
    YAN Han 21
    SCHULTHEISS Adrian 22
    DORNBUSH Richard 23
    PLUSHENKO Evgeni 24


    LADIES

    SEASONS BEST SCORES

    1 192.41 Ashley WAGNER
    2 189.94 Carolina KOSTNER
    3 188.62 Mao ASADA
    4 187.05 Julia LIPNITSKAIA
    5 185.98 Akiko SUZUKI
    6 184.28 Alena LEONOVA
    7 182.89 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA
    8 179.15 Alissa CZISNY
    9 176.18 Caroline ZHANG
    10 175.41 Kanako MURAKAMI
    11 173.22 Mirai NAGASU
    12 172.69 Gracie GOLD
    13 169.75 Adelina SOTNIKOVA
    14 166.94 Kiira KORPI
    15 166.07 Sofia BIRYUKOVA
    16 165.93 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI
    17 164.13 Polina KOROBEYNIKOVA
    18 162.59 Kexin ZHANG
    19 162.34 Polina SHELEPEN
    20 162.20 Satoko MIYAHARA
    21 160.82 Viktoria HELGESSON
    22 159.59 Ksenia MAKAROVA
    23 157.83 Risa SHOJI
    24 157.31 Zijun LI



    ISU WORLD RANKINGS

    KOSTNER Carolina 1
    SUZUKI Akiko 2
    LEONOVA Alena 3
    ANDO Miki 4
    CZISNY Alissa 5
    KORPI Kiira 6
    MURAKAMI Kanako 7
    ASADA Mao 8
    NAGASU Mirai 9
    HELGESSON Viktoria 10
    KIM Yu-Na 11
    MAKAROVA Ksenia 12
    IMAI Haruka 13
    SOTNIKOVA Adelina 14
    FLATT Rachael 15
    GEDEVANISHVILI Elene 16
    WAGNER Ashley 17
    MARCHEI Valentina 18
    ZHANG Caroline 19
    PHANEUF Cynthia 20
    MEITE Mae Berenice 21
    TUKTAMISHEVA Elizaveta 22
    HELGESSON Joshi 23
    HECKEN Sarah 24


    PAIRS

    SEASONS BEST SCORES

    1 212.26 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY
    2 212.08 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
    3 201.83 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
    4 197.84 Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV
    5 193.79 Vera BAZAROVA / Yuri LARIONOV
    6 189.69 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Mervin TRAN
    7 186.05 Qing PANG / Jian TONG
    8 185.42 Caydee DENNEY / John COUGHLIN
    9 185.41 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
    10 182.54 Dan ZHANG / Hao ZHANG
    11 178.89 Mary Beth MARLEY / Rockne BRUBAKER
    12 177.43 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Dylan MOSCOVITCH
    13 171.81 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
    14 170.63 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG
    15 168.16 Stefania BERTON / Ondrej HOTAREK
    16 165.17 Lubov ILIUSHECHKINA / Nodari MAISURADZE
    17 162.96 Xiaoyu YU / Yang JIN
    18 158.66 Paige LAWRENCE / Rudi SWIEGERS
    19 158.44 Jessica DUBE / Sebastien WOLFE
    20 155.42 Tiffany VISE / Don BALDWIN
    21 154.99 Mari VARTMANN / Aaron VAN CLEAVE
    22 153.66 Vasilisa DAVANKOVA / Andrei DEPUTAT
    23 152.65 Katherine BOBAK / Ian BEHARRY
    24 151.93 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES



    ISU WORLD RANKINGS

    SAVCHENKO / SZOLKOWY 1
    VOLOSOZHAR / TRANKOV 2
    PANG / TONG 3
    BAZAROVA / LARIONOV 4
    KAVAGUTI / SMIRNOV 5
    SUI / HAN 6
    TAKAHASHI / TRAN 7
    BERTON / HOTAREK 8
    DUHAMEL / RADFORD 9
    HAUSCH / WENDE 10
    MOORE-TOWERS / MOSCOVITCH 11
    LAWRENCE / SWIEGERS 12
    STOLBOVA / KLIMOV 13
    EVORA / LADWIG 14
    ZHANG / ZHANG 15
    GERBOLDT / ENBERT 16
    ILIUSHECHKINA / MAISURADZE 17
    KEMP / KING 18
    DENNEY / COUGHLIN 19
    MARLEY / BRUBAKER 20
    DONG / WU 21
    YU / JIN 22
    KADLECOVA / BIDAR 23
    VARTMANN / VAN CLEAVE 24


    ICE DANCE

    SEASONS BEST SCORES

    1 188.55 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
    2 183.34 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
    3 173.18 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT
    4 166.65 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
    5 163.52 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV
    6 161.00 Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV
    7 160.62 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
    8 160.55 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
    9 153.81 Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN
    10 152.22 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO
    11 149.98 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN
    12 145.31 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND
    13 143.95 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
    14 142.72 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV
    15 142.27 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES
    16 141.36 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI
    17 141.14 Alexandra ALDRIDGE / Daniel EATON
    18 139.53 Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS
    19 138.70 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
    20 135.10 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
    21 134.61 Nicole ORFORD / Thomas WILLIAMS
    22 133.29 Lorenza ALESSANDRINI / Simone VATURI
    23 133.04 Julia ZLOBINA / Alexei SITNIKOV
    24 131.29 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL



    ISU WORLD RANKINGS

    DAVIS / WHITE 1
    PECHALAT / BOURZAT 2
    VIRTUE / MOIR 3
    SHIBUTANI / SHIBUTANI 4
    WEAVER / POJE 6
    BOBROVA / SOLOVIEV 5
    CAPPELLINI / LANOTTE 7
    CARRON / JONES 8
    RIAZANOVA / TKACHENKO 9
    ILYINIKH / KATSALAPOV 10
    HUANG / ZHENG 11
    ZHIGANSHINA / GAZSI 12
    HOFFMANN / ZAVOZIN 13
    COOMES / BUCKLAND 14
    PUSHKASH / GUERREIRO 15
    MONKO / KHALIAVAN 16
    RALPH / HILL 17
    ALESSANDRINI / VATURI 18
    GORSHKOVA / BUTIKOV 19
    SINITSINA / ZHIGANSHIN 19
    TOBIAS / STAGNIUNAS 21
    REED / REED 22
    PAUL / ISLAM 23
    STEPANOVA / BUKIN 24
    Last edited by euterpe; 04-01-2012 at 03:03 AM.

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    just wondering, because of alissa's disastrous underperformance at worlds, does that mean that the 2nd ladies spot for the US has to go through qualifying/prelim rounds?

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    Entries for 2013 Worlds:

    Ladies:
    Italy-3: 2 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    Russia-3: 2 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Japan-3: 3 Direct
    US-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    China-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    Georgia-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Sweden-1: 1 Direct
    France-1: 1 Direct
    Estonia-1: 1 Direct
    Great Britain-1: 1 Direct
    Spain-1: 1 Direct
    Canada-1: 1 Direct
    Ukraine-1: 1 Direct
    Finland-1: 1 Direct (-1 spot)

    All others 1, 1 Prelim
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    Entries for 2013 Worlds:

    Men:
    Canada-3: 2 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    Japan-3: 3 Direct
    France-3: 2 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    Czech Republic-2: 2 Direct
    Kazakhstan-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    US-2: 2 Direct
    Spain-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Italy-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim (+1 spot)
    China-1: 1 Direct
    Belgium-1: 1 Direct
    Russia-1: 1 Direct (-1 spot)
    Uzbekistan-1: 1 Direct*

    Voronov and Gachinsky were 17th and 18th, but because Russia loses a spot, #19 Ge earned a direct entry for UZB.

    All others, 1, 1 Prelim
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    Entries for 2013 Worlds

    Ice Dance:
    Canada-3: 3 Direct
    US-3: 3 Direct
    France-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Russia-3: 3 Direct
    *Italy-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Germany-1: 1 Direct
    China-1: 1 Direct
    Great Britain: 1, 1 Direct
    Ukraine: 1, 1 Direct

    All others, 1, 1 Prelim

    *Added back in. Thank you, Milu!
    Last edited by kwanfan1818; 04-01-2012 at 04:46 PM.
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    Entries for 2013 Worlds:

    Pairs:
    Germany-2: 2 Direct (-1 spot)
    Russia-3: 3 Direct
    Japan-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    China-3*: 2 Direct, 1 Prelim*
    Canada-2: 2 Direct
    US-2: 2 Direct
    Italy-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim

    All others-1, 1 Prelim

    *Corrected. Thank you zebobes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    Entries for 2013 Worlds

    Ice Dance:
    Canada-3: 3 Direct
    US-3: 3 Direct
    France-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    Russia-3: 3 Direct
    Germany-1: 1 Direct
    China-1: 1 Direct
    Great Britain: 1, 1 Direct
    Ukraine: 1, 1 Direct

    All others, 1, 1 Prelim
    Where is Italy?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    Entries for 2013 Worlds:

    Pairs:
    Germany-2: 2 Direct (-1 spot)
    Russia-3: 3 Direct
    Japan-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim
    China-2: 2 Direct
    Canada-2: 2 Direct
    US-2: 2 Direct
    Italy-2: 1 Direct, 1 Prelim

    All others-1, 1 Prelim

    Also, China should get 3 spots now (P/T were 4th, S/H were 9th)
    So, 2 Direct, 1 prelim (+1 spot)

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    I fixed both. I mis-added for China for Pairs .

    I was waiting to see if anyone would lose a spot for A/V to have earned a second, direct spot, and must have highlighted and overwritten Italy

    I think I have another day to be able to edit the posts, if anyone finds any other errors.
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    A federation gets as many direct entries as the number of this federation's skaters in the top 18 for Singles, top 12 for Pairs, and top 12 (Euros, 4CC) or 15 (Jr. Worlds and Worlds) for Ice Dance in the corresponding discipline of the preceding season's same Championships.
    If this (from the OP) is still true, the second US lady will have to skate the QR next year. 23rd is not in the top 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    If this (from the OP) is still true, the second US lady will have to skate the QR next year. 23rd is not in the top 18.
    It is still true, and the lower-ranked (ISU World Standings) US lady will have to skate in the preliminary round at 2013 Worlds because Czisny finished 22nd.

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    As I found to my chagrin this year, it's not always the top 18 from this year's Worlds: if countries have more skaters in the top 18 than they have spots for next year's Worlds, then they go to the next ranked skater's country.

    For example, in Nice Russia had two skaters in the top 18, but because they only have one spot for next year, the 18th direct spot will go to Uzbekistan.

    For this year, two countries with Ladies in the top 18 at Moscow lost one spot each, and they went as far as the 20th ranked Ladies skater to get the full 18.

    Alas for the US, Czisny's placement won't cut it.
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    What's really brutal is that if the US is crazy enough to send Czisny to Worlds next year, chances are, what ever lady is sent with her will have to skate the QR, and not Czisny.

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    Oda didn't even make the FS a couple of years ago, and it was Kozuka who had to skate the qualifying round at 2011 Worlds after two GP wins, a GPF bronze, and a 4th at 4C's, because of Oda's (and Takahashi's) higher WS.

    With the 8th-highest SB score in 2011-12, Czisny will be guaranteed one GP spot, and likely will earn some incremental points, even if it's the only international event in which she skates all year. So will Zhang (9th, less than three points behind), Nagasu (11th), and Gold (12th), if Gold skates senior next year. (Zawadzki missed top 24 by .47.)

    If I've done the calculations right (dropping 2009-10, factoring by .7), Czisny should start next season with 2650, and her closest US competitor would be Wagner with 1901. If Wagner (1901) continues on a roll and gets good GP scores, makes GPF, and does well at 4C's, she could catch Czisny in WS before London, but I don't think that Nagasu (1804), Zawadzki (1555), or Zhang (1305) can catch her, since many of the points earned next year will be incremental, i.e., replacing a lower score already counted as best two-of-three. Gold would starting with 700, and while with only one year's scores all of her results next season will be added, she's not going to get close, unless she wins everything on JGP/JGPF and then scores a big one at 4C's.
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    what makes me mad regarding alissa-she lost the direct entry-whether she planned it or not i don't know. if she comes back.

    but since u.s.f.s.a. cited rachel.

    this is what i would do to alissa-because you almost lost a 2nd spot, and definetly lost the direct entry-
    1) only 1 gp event until you can prove handle skating in last half of season after nationals.-
    2) no.u.s. gp assignment--you the lost the spot. you had direct entry yourself-should have kept for other skaters.
    3) the complaining regarding the F/c whether it had impact or not-i don't know, but you wouldn't let up. thought we snubbed you, wanted to give you more time for worlds due to (injury)
    i realized this is harsh -but i am tired of sending U.s. skaters to worlds and see just skating-half-ass. and not getting three when more than capable. is mindblowing.

    u.s. skaters have the goods they don't deliver when they should for their own personal, selfish reason.

    the u.s. wants more money-but can't get it with skaters not getting 3 in first place and then not medaling in 2nd.

    we sent two national champs in ladies 1 former -1 tanks the other did decent kept two (with a bit of help to get to 4th) she skated well enough for 5th-6th.

    jeremy 3 time champ-okay but not well.
    adam okay-but used excused or short not score what wanted so what-tank in long due to it.

    just tired of all the excuses u.s skaters say and than complain about lack of money-not kinda of money they want.

    lose marketiabilty after they quit the sport. like patrick chan inflation-might lose marketability if they keep it up and people don't agree with the scores, and reasons given.

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