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  • Ito vs Yamaguchi

    5 3.03%
  • Slutskaya vs Kwan

    17 10.30%
  • Lipinski vs Kwan

    2 1.21%
  • Hoffmann vs Cousins

    0 0%
  • Orser vs Boitano

    25 15.15%
  • Stojko vs Eldredge

    0 0%
  • Fratianne vs Poetzsch

    0 0%
  • Kim vs Asada

    7 4.24%
  • Yagudin vs Plushenko

    94 56.97%
  • Witt vs Thomas

    10 6.06%
  • Browning vs Petrenko

    1 0.61%
  • other (please specify)

    4 2.42%
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    Greatest singles rivalry ever

    What do you consider the greatest singles skating rivalry ever.

    I actually voted for Yamaguchi vs Ito which wasnt even on the other poll. It is too bad they didnt both skate amateur longer or compete against each in pros more often.

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    Yags vs Plush by a mile!
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    Yags v Plush too. What other rivalry involved quads, Olympic titles, voodoo and hypnosis, and a 'two wives' quote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgejudy27 View Post
    I actually voted for Yamaguchi vs Ito
    Huh? How was this a great rivalry?

    going by season

    1989 - Ito is a top skater (ending with her WC) Yamaguchi a future hopeful
    1990 - Ito is still on top (though ends up with silver WC medal due to her disastrous paragraph loop) Yamaguchi is still an up and comer (who stumbled badly at the WCs)
    1991 - Yamaguchi in a minor surprise beats an injured Ito
    1992 - Olympics is the one competition where they were real rivals, Ito skips worlds

    Not much meat there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mafke View Post
    Huh? How was this a great rivalry?

    going by season

    1989 - Ito is a top skater (ending with her WC) Yamaguchi a future hopeful
    1990 - Ito is still on top (though ends up with silver WC medal due to her disastrous paragraph loop) Yamaguchi is still an up and comer (who stumbled badly at the WCs)
    1991 - Yamaguchi in a minor surprise beats an injured Ito
    1992 - Olympics is the one competition where they were real rivals, Ito skips worlds

    Not much meat there.
    The rivalry started in fall 1990 IMO when Yamaguchi pulled off two big fall wins, first beating World Champion Jill Trenary on a 4-3 split to win the Goodwill Games, then in an even bigger upset beating Ito convincingly at Skate America. Then after the 91 Worlds, Ito came back to beat Yamaguchi at Trophee Lalique, but Kristi came back to win the Olympic Gold.

    It moved onto the Pros. Ito upset the by then dominant pro queen Yamaguchi to win the 93/94 World Pros, but Kristi came back to win the Challenge of Champions over Ito. Then the following season Kristi dethroned Ito at the 94/95 World Pros, then later that season at the Challenge of Champions Ito edged out Sato and Yamaguchi by a small margin to win the Challenge of Champions (Sato was 2nd to Ito by .2, and Kristi a further .2 point). I thought the 94/95 Challenge of Champions and even the World Pros was higher caliber of skating by the top women than the World Championships of 95.

    Yamaguchi 94 Challenge of Champions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNB_sx39FXE
    Ito 94 Challenge of Champions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsy50CpgiWM
    Sato 94 Challenge of Champions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhcOoK7eMBU
    Ito 94 World Pros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca-LiBhdT2E
    Yamaguchi 94 World Pros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n1SLDVBKIk

    To me it was a good rivalry with lots of back and forth and victories for both and at times (though not always) very high level of skating by both.
    Last edited by judgejudy27; 01-16-2011 at 11:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl View Post
    Yags v Plush too. What other rivalry involved quads, Olympic titles, voodoo and hypnosis, and a 'two wives' quote?
    I voted for this one, but I didn't know there was ever voodoo used.. please clarify!

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    Tarasova voodooed Mishin and they made out in SLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    Tarasova voodooed Mishin and they made out in SLC.
    I did not need that mental image

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    EDITED FOR PUBLIC DECENCY.
    EWWW

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    Quote Originally Posted by jl View Post
    Yags v Plush too. What other rivalry involved quads, Olympic titles, voodoo and hypnosis, and a 'two wives' quote?
    I know about the voodoo stuff, but what did their wives say?
    Coud you share the details, please?

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    Hoffman and Cousins, a rivalry

    Cousins never beat Hoffman before 1980 Euros, when Mueller horse traded with Fassi.

    (I always wondered why Fassi was not able to get Lisa Marie Allen to breakthrough. Of course, when Fratianne won figures (such a shock, she must have been good since Frank was a nobody) and had two triples at 1977 Worlds, it really set her up to be the American front runner.)
    Last edited by bardtoob; 01-17-2011 at 06:38 AM.

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    Well, Frank Carroll and Stanislav Zhuk were lovers, weren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matti View Post
    Well, Frank Carroll and Stanislav Zhuk were lovers, weren't they?
    Were they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    Tarasova voodooed Mishin and they made out in SLC.
    Are you sure it wasn´t Morozov? Or Morozov learnt it from Tarasova?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RumbleFish View Post
    I know about the voodoo stuff, but what did their wives say?
    Coud you share the details, please?
    Alas, it is not that salacious. There was that famous SLC promo with much drama, Yags saying he hated Plush while Plush looked at the snowy landscape, and Mishin explained that training both Yags and Plush back in the 1990s was like having two wives.

    Another vote for Yagudin and Plushenko, who were miles ahead of the rest of the field and hated each other, making for much .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post

    Another vote for Yagudin and Plushenko, who were miles ahead of the rest of the field and hated each other, making for much .
    yes these days that one compliments the other all the time and they play ping pong together it is such a let down, I want back the two wives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemgirl View Post
    Mishin explained that training both Yags and Plush back in the 1990s was like having two wives.

    Million dollar idea : Big Love on Ice

    You couldn't be more welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita View Post
    yes these days that one compliments the other all the time and they play ping pong together it is such a let down, I want back the two wives
    Yeah, fun is gone... no voodoo, hypnosis, etc, I miss their rivalry so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIETgrlTerifa View Post
    Were they?
    Who knows, they might have been... Then again Suzanne Morrow Francis and Elena Tchaikovskaya were also under suspicion, all that arm in arm walking at Lake Placid '80 (in furs).

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    Yagudin-Plushenko by a mile

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