It would be quite nice to see a truly classical Russian pair take hold of pairs again, and even better if Moskvina choreographed for them
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I have never been enamored of any of the Chinese pairs. Sure the tricks are big, but skating skills and spins are pretty ordinary to say the least. Although they manage to be top teams, it's usually fridge/ciggy break time for me. I like the Germans and the Russian teams, and of course cheer on dutifully the Canadian teams.
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I was never their fan or even close to it. The only time I thought they had potential was at the 2002 Olympics. They never really developed into a top pair, IMO. It won't break my heart if they never win the world championship. There are many skaters who were good enough to win the world title but did not. I don't feel the Zhangs were ever good enough to win the world title, though in 2006 they may have had their best opportunity (Pang & Tong won).
Any updates on them? Will they even be back this season.
Haven't heard a thing.
^Weird. Has anyone checked the 4CC entries for clues? I looked the other day and didn't see anything...
I wonder if we will see a Chen Lu a la '94 Worlds situation where the Chinese Fed needs Z/Z to compete at Worlds in order to secure 3 spots for 2012 and kind of forces them into it even while still injured.
Didn't he just have a broken finger? And that was several months ago. Maybe it was worse than expected, but I think it's more likely that he's recovered now and they've just been very quiet about their return to serious training/competition. It's not like we would have seen them at Chinese Nationals, if there even was one. The top names don't seem to compete there... it's strange. I imagine the Zhangs will resurface at 4CC.
If Sui & Han are old enough for senior Worlds, Pang & Tong and Sui & Han together should be enough for China to retain three spots. If Sui & Han are not old enough, China is better off just sending Pang & Tong to Worlds. Pang & Tong have a better chance at being top 3 (or 2?) than the second Chinese non-Zhangs non-Sui & Han pair team placing top 10.
Just read something Yao Bin said on Jan 14:
Yao Bin said the finger is recoverING, but is still bent and swollen. The bones are healed but the shape and strength are not back yet. They haven't been practising pair elements.
It didn't mention whether they will compete at 4CCs or Worlds. But given the description, I think 4CCs is out of the question. Worlds, probably...
EDITED: just read another quote from Yao Bin that said they will be absent from Worlds too, so I guess 4CCs is also out of the question.
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I feel bad for them as a pair. Even if I'm not a fan, I noticed that they attempted to better the PCS side of their skating starting around '08 - '09 season, yet seem to run into obstacles on their way to the top.
Also, from several posters in other threads, Sui/Han are NOT old enough for Worlds this year. Will be interesting to see how the Chinese Fed handles entries to Worlds
That is a shame since I was looking forward to seeing their new programs this season. I wonder if next season (if they return) they will use those same ones they never got to skate this season or new ones. Wow do they have a long road to winning Worlds now though. Savchenko & Szolkowy, Pang & Tong, and Kavaguti & Smirnov, are all firmly entrenched ahead of them even before this season, and they missed the chance to make any comeback on those pairs, particularly the latter two who have been injured and struggled, this season. Volosozhar & Morozov will probably medal at Worlds if they skate well and will also be firmly ahead of the Zhangs in the judges eyes going into next season in that case. And Sui & Han will be age eligible for Worlds next year, while Dube & Davison will also be returning and Barazova & Larionov improving too. They are going to have to skate a blinder if they are to win a Worlds in the future.
But, I wonder how much longer Pang / Tong can hold onto a top spot. Haven't they been skating since like 2000 Worlds? Age and distraction catch up with you when you've been around for a long time
It will be also interesting to watch 'the changing of the guard' in Chinese Pairs in the forthcoming years as P/T will retire eventually. And it remains to be seen how Z/Z, who have also been around for quite a while, will be received upon any return to competition, now that there will be 3 strong Russian Pairs on their way to compete in Sochi 2014, as well as others you've mentioned. Then, they will probably have to deal with an emerging age-eligible Sui / Han internally.
Are Dube/Davison also out of Worlds, too?