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    I'm not sure how I feel about this.

    I'm not against Target or any American retailer coming in, I just wish they'd come in on their own and didn't have to erase (and I have no doubt that's what will happen) a completely Canadian retail chain to do it. (yes, yes, I know who owns HBC, but they have managed to retained their Canadian identity, imo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Skatefan View Post
    Whatever. Make your own choices.
    Read my signature line.

    I didn't condemn you for your decision - I merely voiced my own opinion about the boycott, and followed that up with my own personal decision.

    The was for moveon.org, which is a website that makes me physically ill.

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    Am I the only one who hates big box stores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japanfan View Post


    Am I the only one who hates big box stores?
    Nope, I don't much like them either. I often can't find anyone to help when I need it and when I DO find someone, they don't know anything about what I want. Oh yeah, and I can seldom find what I'm looking for and nothing seems to be laid out in a logical-to-me order. I'll give our local Canadian Tire this - at least they have a map at the front of the store to help me find things - or at least point me in the right direction. I am finding someone to help more often than I used to - but then I also know a couple of people who work there so if the are working, I ask them! Pays to know people hahaha.

    I avoid BBS whenever I can ... not that I enjoy shopping to begin with. I'll take a small store with sales people who know their product even if it DOES cost me more.
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    Last year I read an article that said Target was looking to move up north in about five years. (Of course it was under the headline, "Target Coming To Canada!" and sent people into a tizzy then. Stupid Toronto Star) I imagine they would have come up here without buying out Zellers in time, but this bumps it along.

    I'd be upset about it, but a) I love Target, and b) I hate Zellers. Our local Loblaws often has equal or better pricing, and is more Canadian than HBC these days. It also has Joe Fresh clothing and makeup, which Americans SHOULD be jealous of.

    Besides, I wonder if Target will actually be able to bring all the brands up with them, even their in-house stuff. Canada's product regulating system seem to be notoriously tighter than those to the south. It's not even that certain products wouldn't make the grade, but that companies might have to shell out big bucks for extra testing just so something can be sold here.

    I'm mostly just thinking about the cosmetic brands they carry (Plixi, etc.) that might not make it up here. Which would be a personal tragedy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Ok, fine, you get Target. Now give us Canadian Tire and we'll call it even.
    I have such a love-hate relationship with Canadian Tire. I can't figure out why Americans would want them-- do you not have something similar? Is it their own currency? The terrible service? The amazing sales that drag you back when you swore you were out? And when you do go in, you drop much more than you ever intended to? I'm due for an extra car snow brush, but I'm afraid to go get one there. Who knows how much I'll come out with?

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    But why do you need help when you're buying toilet paper? Who are these toilet paper specialists?

    Anyways, count me in as someone hates when salespeople ask if I need any help. The Bay, like Zellers, is void of staff, which is awesome. I tried on 10 different suits at The Bay without anyone talking to me. Heaven!

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    I've never considered Target (or Zellers) to be a "big box store." They're department stores, same as The Bay or Penny's, just a little lower down the scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andora View Post
    I have such a love-hate relationship with Canadian Tire. I can't figure out why Americans would want them-- do you not have something similar? Is it their own currency? The terrible service? The amazing sales that drag you back when you swore you were out? And when you do go in, you drop much more than you ever intended to? I'm due for an extra car snow brush, but I'm afraid to go get one there. Who knows how much I'll come out with?
    Oh yeah, we have one of those money eating beasts here. It's called Costco.
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    I like Big Box stores. I hate going into little shops where the salespeople jump all over you offering help and even if you decline it still feels awkward, especially if you walk out without buying anything. But then I love shopping and when I have a list and I'm at Costco or Walmart Supercenter I look at it as a scavenger hunt and decline help even if offered.

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    Our local newscast of course covered the Target story since Winnipegers tend to be big cross-border shoppers with Target being one of the big draws. Their "expert" opined that the US Target would still see a fair amount of traffic because even if the product were identical the prices would likely always be higher in Canada.

    That's one of the things that bugs the heck out of me since we have been near parity for some time now, including a recent month long stretch where the the Canadian dollar has been higher than the US dollar.

    Of course he also failed to mention how the cross-border shopping trip is for some a social exercise more than a bargain hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skate Talker View Post
    ... would still see a fair amount of traffic because even if the product were identical the prices would likely always be higher in Canada. That's one of the things that bugs the heck out of me since we have been near parity for some time now, including a recent month long stretch where the the Canadian dollar has been higher than the US dollar.
    Relative Canada-US costs have to do with a lot more than where the dollar is. Costs are generally higher in Canada because of property costs, corporate taxes, employee benefits, etc., as well as the not insignificant increased shipping costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Oh yeah, we have one of those money eating beasts here. It's called Costco.
    We have Costco, too, and I would have to agree my description is very apt to them as well. Canadian Tire has prettier displays. I guess that's the only difference.

    Though I do generally like their automotive centres!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis@BC View Post
    I've never considered Target (or Zellers) to be a "big box store." They're department stores, same as The Bay or Penny's, just a little lower down the scale.
    I don't know what Zellers is, but I consider Target to be the same as Walmart (though I find Target's clothing section to be a bit better), and completely different then JC Penny's. Penny's doesn't sell basic groceries (or all groceries if you have really good Target), nor do they sell toys, electronics, media (books, computer games, dvds, cds), furniture, or things like school/office supplies, candles, scrapbooking stuff etc.

    JC Penny's and other deparment stores sell clothing, bedding, small appliances, and dishes but they are not diversified to the extent big box stores like Walmart and Target are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andora View Post
    I have such a love-hate relationship with Canadian Tire. I can't figure out why Americans would want them
    Me either.

    I love Target, and there is no way it could be considered a "department store." I may be weird, but I actually much prefer Target to the vast majority of department stores out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffisjeff View Post
    Me either. I love Target, and there is no way it could be considered a "department store." I may be weird, but I actually much prefer Target to the vast majority of department stores out there.
    Target is what used to be called a "discount store" (now that they carried groceries as well, perhaps a "mega store")-- and while definitely not a department store, I've never considered it in the same category as WalMart. I suppose it is, but the quality of the merchandise (especially clothing and to a lesser degree, home furnishings) seems a lot better to me. There is one local department store that I shop at for clothing (they actually have shoes in my hard-to-find size and I like their separates, but I buy them when they go on drastic mark-down) and Clinique cosmetics.

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    Referring back to our local news story, Target was said to be attempting to be known as a more 'hip" version of a Walmart type of store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skate Talker View Post
    Referring back to our local news story, Target was said to be attempting to be known as a more 'hip" version of a Walmart type of store.
    Well, all of Target's TV advertising certainly is evidence of that.

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    Best things about Target are:

    sweepstakes. I won a $1000.00 gift card.

    cart escalators. I love to play with those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skatingfan5 View Post
    Target is what used to be called a "discount store" (now that they carried groceries as well, perhaps a "mega store")-- and while definitely not a department store, I've never considered it in the same category as WalMart. I suppose it is, but the quality of the merchandise (especially clothing and to a lesser degree, home furnishings) seems a lot better to me. There is one local department store that I shop at for clothing (they actually have shoes in my hard-to-find size and I like their separates, but I buy them when they go on drastic mark-down) and Clinique cosmetics.
    Target is definitely in the same category as Walmart, but Target is at one extreme while Walmart is at the other. Target is definitely higher in quality for most items. I don't generally like their adult clothing (except for t-shirts, sweats, etc., where they have some decent stuff), but their kids clothing is so much better than Walmart's. I generally find their store design and layout to be much preferable to Walmart's as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmscfdcsu View Post
    cart escalators. I love to play with those things.
    http://beastandbean.wordpress.com/20...lators-target/
    I never saw those before! And there is a Target across the street from me.

    Will they be called "tar-ZHAY" in Quebec?

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    Their Christmas commercial is still stuck in my head

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