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    Caroline Zhang changes coaches to Peter Oppegard

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk9tingfan View Post
    She now lists Peter Oppegard as her coach on Ice Network! Reported by Lynn Rutherford on Twitter!!
    This news is confirmed in Zhang's USFS/IceNetwork bio: http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/de...=100051&mode=I

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    Here is a link to the tweet: http://twitter.com/LynnRutherford/st...20526724112385

    Coaching change for CZhang; now she is in Artesia: http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/de...051&mode=I

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    Wow, Gambill didn't last too long, did she? And wasn't there another short-lived coach last year, between the two tenures of Migzhu Li...Charlene Wong, I think?

    So Caroline is now one of Yu-Na Kim's training mates, which is surely a positive. I'm afraid, though, that if Caroline fails to make, say, Top 5 at Nationals, she'll bolt to yet another coach. There's an air of desperation in all of this, as if the problems are solely with the coaches and not within herself.
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    training with Yu-Na will give her an indication of her shortcomings in speed and flow. more than any coach can tell her.
    I think it's a good move, if only, because of that

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    I am surprised by this news, right before Nationals too. Caroline has been spotted at Artesia quite a bit and I thought that it was a little strange. I also read that she and her family moved to be closer to her coach's training facility. Goes to show you can't believe everything you read online. lol Training with YuNa is a plus tho. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinhood View Post
    training with Yu-Na will give her an indication of her shortcomings in speed and flow. more than any coach can tell her.
    I think it's a good move, if only, because of that
    This is now her fourth coaching change in two seasons, albeit one change was to go back to her original coach. This does not bode well. It takes a lot longer than a few months to determine whether the change is a good one, and she's hasn't stayed with either of the other two coaches she moved to long enough to know whether it would work or not.

    While it might appear that Caroline went backwards under Tammi Gambill, realistically speaking some backwards movement is required in order to go forward. (See Mao Asada).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittyjake5 View Post
    Goes to show you can't believe everything you read online..........
    Exactly. It's like 5 or 6 people are quoting and tweeting the IceNetwork bio with no news report.

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    I agree, Dragonlady.

    I don't see how constant coaching changes are going to help Caroline. The technical flaws in her skating are such that they will require a lot of hard work and likely some poor results to correct. It seems Caroline and her mother are looking for a quick fix that is not going to happen. As it was, Gambill had done wonders for Caroline's 3F technique, which really speaks to her credit, IMO.

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    Hmm. Surprising news! Although training with Yuna is a good thing, I'm not sure Peter is necessarily known as a good technical coach. Isn't that what she needs most now? Tammy may not be well-known but I heard she is good at working with the basics.

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    I hope that she's not playing musical coaches because she got impatient with the hard work of changing technique under Tammy Gambill. Or worse, her mother got involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by olympic View Post
    I hope that she's not playing musical coaches because she got impatient with the hard work of changing technique under Tammy Gambill. Or worse, her mother got involved
    BINGO! (I bet.)

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    Shades of Mira Leung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlady View Post
    This is now her fourth coaching change in two seasons, albeit one change was to go back to her original coach.
    See: Nicole Bobek.
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    I think Nicole holds the record for most coaching changes.
    My job requires me to be a juggler, but that does not mean that I enjoy working with clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlady View Post
    This is now her fourth coaching change in two seasons, albeit one change was to go back to her original coach. This does not bode well. It takes a lot longer than a few months to determine whether the change is a good one, and she's hasn't stayed with either of the other two coaches she moved to long enough to know whether it would work or not.
    And to think people thought Bobek was flighty. She doesn't hold a candle to La Zhang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    I don't see how constant coaching changes are going to help Caroline. The technical flaws in her skating are such that they will require a lot of hard work and likely some poor results to correct. It seems Caroline and her mother are looking for a quick fix that is not going to happen. As it was, Gambill had done wonders for Caroline's 3F technique, which really speaks to her credit, IMO.
    Yep. Scott Hamilton once said of Nicole Bobek's 8 coaches in 8 years something along the lines of "with so many voices wandering in your head, the question you have to ask yourself is 'who is right?'" Unfortunately for Caroline, she needs so much more skating help than Nicole ever did. If Zhang had Bobek's basic skating and presentation ability, she'd definitely be making US World teams.
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    I really liked Gambill, she worked miracles for Zhang!

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    Caroline and her mother run the show. Any coach is just a figurehead.

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    Sigh. So much for her really taking the time, knuckling down, listening to criticisms and truly fixing her faults.

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    My job requires me to be a juggler, but that does not mean that I enjoy working with clowns.

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