I think like Schuba, Peggy Flemming had usually such a cushion after figures that she could afford several mistakes in the free skate and still win overall. That being said, I never thought that Peggy watered down her LP content even with her big figures lead - she still had 2 or 3 2 axels planned in the program, plus some 2-2 combinations.
Even a free skate like Seyfert's 1970 World Championship LP (which she had to come from behind to beat Schuba) would still not have been able to beat Flemming overall. Unfortunately, the video for that free skate is no longer on youtube.
They had to do only five figures at the 1968 Olympics. I think the easiest one was omitted (the counter?), but it was still 60% of the total score. Four years later the weight of the figures was dropped to 50%, but they did all the six figures.
It may be that back in 1968, no one at the ISU was ratifying jumps the way they did in Bonaly's day. In 1968, very few women had even attempted a triple jump in competition, and it was extremely unusual for a man to attempt more than one in a single program.
wow, the lost history of gender barrier breaking. can you not contact whomever used to have that youtube account?
I had always heard Priscilla Hill as being the first to land it in competition.
This page supports that.
I wouldn't be surprised if American or German sources interpret "first" differently. There aren't any official ISU sources on the subject, are there?
When I interviewed Barbara Ann Scott, she was listed as the first woman to land a 2lutz. But recently I read someone else got that credit (can't remember who).
Fleming's skating did not appear to be as athletic as Seyfert or Maskova. However, she was balletic, flexible and sublime. Her abilities in Figures suggest that while princessy, she had good edges. As mentioned, she did have the full complement of jumps for the time and so much of her program was linked together with transitions and MITF. Perhaps the Olympic judges appreciated this and is why she won handily. In fact, I believe she had a row of 5.9s for Artistic impression
I do recall years after her win, she noted in an interview that she was disappointed with her '68 Grenoble LP, and I recall her popping a jump or two when I watched it. IOW, it wasn't captivating or anything but I have never ever recalled her win being labeled 'controversial' or a head-scratcher.
BTW, ETA - There was another top US lady up to the mid-60s. I think she retired before Grenoble but I think she may have competed post- Innsbruck '64. Her name was Christine Haigler and she was a top US competitor post-1961 crash for quite a few years. I wonder what happened to her?
Peggy fell out of her double lutz early, singled her 2nd double axel out of a spreadeagle, 2footed her second double flip and popped her final double sal into a single with a double 3 out of it. Considering that, her marks at the Olympics are a bit of a joke, but Gaby didn't skate all that great either. I believe she left out some of her combo's and both her double axels were very tight.
re: Tina Noyes
I never saw her skate, but I am sure I saw her coaching around Boston (skating club of Boston, Hayden, Burlington ice rink) and at competitions when I was a kid (late 70s).
She must have been one of the youngest pros around. She did not look any older than the young skaters she was coaching.
I definitely remember reading about her participating in Olympic torch runs when the games came to the United States.
Witt doesn't say why Mueller is banned, but she implies that it is because of Mueller's former political connections to East Germany. Wasn't her second husband (Herr Mueller) an East German official?
I always felt sorry for Anett Poetsch. She was forced to retire immediately after winning the OGM. No shows, nothing. Imagine having to quit cold turkey at the peak of your career.
Katarina must have been quite a force to reckon with. She was allowed to tour and to train for a second Olympics. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during training with Frau Mueller. Apparently she trained Katarina, Anett, and Jan Hoffman together.
And another quote:"She was my teacher, and as such always had to be ready to crack the whip. I never saw her soft moments, because she wouldn't show them to me. It wasn't because she didn't have them. I never saw her cry. She was always strong and independent, and I trusted her. Listen, to be a world-class athlete, most of the time you need to go beyond your pain limit. You can get to it on your own, but you need someone to push you over. Otherwise you'll never improve. And for that you need a coach. It's very difficult to be a great coach and at the same time be a friend. That's why I never called her by her first name, Jutta. It was always Frau Muller, and still is.
"You coach can't be the enemy. She must be someone you trust, because, after all, you're on the same side. You're pulling on the same rope. But neither should your coach be someone you can go have a drink with, because then it get easy to say: 'I don't want to do this today. We'll do it tomorrow.' The coach's goal every day is to get the best out of you, to suck the greatness out of you, and that's hard. Frau Muller had to be my enemy sometimes. I had to hate her. I had to feel aggressive toward her, so I'd be able to work under her discipline. If she'd been my friend, I'd have walked off when she told me to keep doing a triple, even if I fell fifty times. There has to be an element of fear. That's the only way, I think. That's why some other skaters quit. They couldn't take her anger and turn it into their own energy, as I learned to do. They'd just get more frustrated and think they were worthless. I was very strong, very stubborn, and could forget very quickly. I could walk off the ice after she'd screamed at me for half an hour, and after a fifteen-minute break come back on, and we'd look at each other and say, 'Okay, now we work on something else.' Then you start from scratch. That's something you should be able to do. I was always pretty good at sleeping problems away. Every day's a new day. That's importnat for a skater, or any athlete. And you know what? She would hug me as well, and say, 'Kati, I just want your best.' And I always believed her."
Some coaches just teach to make a living. Other coaches, like Frau Muller, live for the sport. She skated in the 1950's, but was never a star herself. In those years the GDR never did well internationally. At one point they hired an English coach, Megan Taylor, to try to improve their performances at the World Championships, but she left after one season. "Those East German skaters have what it takes to go to the World Championships, all right," the Englishwoman told a reporter after she'd left. "But only as ticket takers."
Frau Muller never forgot that slight, and it motivated her in her career as a coach. She proved the Englishwoman wrong, too. Under her tutelage, GDR skaters won ten World Championships between 1969 and 1980. Her daughter, Gabriele Seyfert, and Anett Potzsch and Jan Hoffmann all won twice, and I won four times. Frau Muller was the most successful coach of her generation.