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    Well, I'm going to say it here - the TV audience was robbed of several outstanding performances. No excuses for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    It was good to see Debi skate again - I love her body and she looked great. But I wasn't overwhelmed by the skating overall..
    She certainly looks great, and she skated pretty darn well for a 43-year-old orthopedic surgeon who hasn't performed in many years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskatefan View Post
    Loved the live show, enjoyed the broadcast, but VERY upset that several excellent performances were not shown in their entirety in the broadcast - Todd's Mike's, Calla & Rocky (who really brought the house down), etc. I hope that TPTB consider making a DVD of the ENTIRE show. I hate to see anyone get "chacked!"
    Amen!

    I was quite amazed at how well Calla & Rocky skated as I don't think they've performed together in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskatefan View Post
    Well, I'm going to say it here - the TV audience was robbed of several outstanding performances. No excuses for that!
    I enjoyed it for what it was: a different type of skating show. Some of my favorite segments included footage of older skaters. I wish I had seen more of that. Also, I loved that the musical entertainment did not compete with the skaters!

    Since most of the people we saw in the broadcast no longer skate (or at least, in public) I was pleased with what I did see. Those of you who attended the show have your memories of the actual event, and nothing can compete with that.

    Between Richard Dwyer's shameless flirting and Nancy and Paul's recreation of a special moment in time, I am

    ps: if they do release a DVD, I will certainly buy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopysnake View Post
    She certainly looks great, and she skated pretty darn well for a 43-year-old orthopedic surgeon who hasn't performed in many years!
    She was fine. I meant that I wasn't impressed by most of the other numbers.

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    The best part was no cutting away for musicians! I would have loved to see the other skaters who were there live. Stupid question - didn't Rudy have AIDS (or maybe was just HIV positive?) and was really sick for awhile there? He sure looks healthy now. So wonderful to see him on the ice.

    Does anyone else want to drag out their VCR and tapes from the 80s and 90s? Am I just old or was skating more interesting back then. And does anyone else miss the World Pro competitions? "Meeeeeem-reeeeees". Oh well.

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    I didn't expect to like this so much. Would also like to have the DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    The best part was no cutting away for musicians! I would have loved to see the other skaters who were there live. Stupid question - didn't Rudy have AIDS (or maybe was just HIV positive?) and was really sick for awhile there? He sure looks healthy now. So wonderful to see him on the ice.
    I think Rudy was just diagnosed HIV positive. I don't remember hearing that he was really sick. He also had a double hip replacement but seemed to bounce back from that and continued skating for awhile after that, I think until Champions on Ice folded.

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    Rudi is coaching now. He looks a bit heavy but skated pretty well for bilat hip replacements!

    I loved this show for most of the reasons everyone else stated. It was wonderful to see skaters who have pretty much retired back on the ice. Nancy esp. looked happy and well.

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    I think I read somewhere that they are considering doing a DVD, that would be nice to have the programs that didn't make the broadcast. I thought it was a great show that was filled with nostalgia. This backstage video is fun, especially Dick Button and his bunny ears move...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEoOVU3baO4

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    If you're on Facebook, you can post your comments on the Caesars' Tribute wall. Let them know how you feel about the "chacking" of 7 (!) skating performances, among other things. I do hope they decide to make a DVD of the entire show. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

    If you missed the show, it will be re-aired on the Hallmark Channel in 2011.

    http://www.dissonskating.com

    Susan1, I'm totally with you on your point re: the musical guests. I am just so grateful that the skaters all skated to recorded music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatesindreams View Post
    I'm sorry for what they "chacked"; yet, I'm grateful for how much they are showing.
    I forgot to mention - I haven't seen "chacked" for years!!!!!!!!!!! A 90's expression for the 90's skaters we got to see (or not)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I forgot to mention - I haven't seen "chacked" for years!!!!!!!!!!! A 90's expression for the 90's skaters we got to see (or not)?
    Chacked / Chack - A term coined after the 1993 U S Nationals in Phoenix. Michael Chack was 8th after the short program and was not in the last group. He had a great skate and finished 3rd overall. ABC chose to only show the last group and did not show Chack's program at all. The only way anyone knew who finished in 3rd was to look at the results. Thus, the term chacked.

    It was the only time Michael won a medal as a senior at Nationals.

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    ^ Thanks for the explanation. I always thought it was a funny word and never heard it used in any other context. (i.e. non-skating)
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    I use the term all the time

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    In addition to numerous skaters having their performances condensed to just a few seconds of highlights for the TV broadcast, there was also the insulting decision to cover the bottom of the screen with a list of all past U.S. champions during Debi Thomas' program and two or three other programs.

    The "golden age" of figure skating is in the past, and so is the "golden age" of television coverage. These days, it almost seems that TV networks and producers go out of their way to make watching their shows a baffling ordeal for the viewer.

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    Not to belabor the point, but Todd, Mike, and Kimmie did retakes. Our party of five thought for sure they would be shown on the broadcast. Todd had been on the Today show that morning promoting the show (interview & skating at Rockefeller Center), so that was very disappointing not to see him. All the men skated very well, and all of them should have been shown. Calla & Rocky were amazing live, truly one of the many highlights of the show for lots of people who were fortunate enough to be there. I didn't realize that Caryn Kadavy was in this show, and I flipped when I saw her, so yes, I certainly wanted to see her beautiful performance aired (it's been a few years since we saw her skate live). I have loved Jenni & Todd's "True Companion" program for a long time, and was thrilled they choose to skate to it again. Naomi & Peter brought back a signature program as well. So, I guess I'll be checking the Stargames website periodically to rewatch all of these programs that the TV audience didn't get to see (and still hope for a complete DVD).
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    I also vote for the DVD edition if all performances are included. They can chack those idiotic Pandora commercials, though. By eliminating the Pandoras, they could have squeezed-in at least two of the chacked skates.

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    I would LOVE to get a DVD of the entire show - bonus points for lots of fun backstage footage and interviews with the skaters. Can you imagine what an awesome package they could put together if they really wanted? It would be a great opportunity to gather USFSA history/memories in one place before we lose any more of our fabulous athletes to age or disease.

    I suppose music rights might be a problem though.

    That said, I'm glad we got as much as we did. It was really fun to see skaters from my era, and yes, I'm ready to break out all my old VHS tapes and start transferring stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.H.Black View Post
    Chacked / Chack - A term coined after the 1993 U S Nationals in Phoenix. Michael Chack was 8th after the short program and was not in the last group. He had a great skate and finished 3rd overall. ABC chose to only show the last group and did not show Chack's program at all. The only way anyone knew who finished in 3rd was to look at the results. Thus, the term chacked.

    It was the only time Michael won a medal as a senior at Nationals.
    I knew what it meant! I don't think I've seen "chack" used on this message board ever! Anyone else who used to go to rec.sport.skating.ice.figure back in the day????

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