Neither do I!
He looked big, over-tanned...and, frankly, as if he had a bad hangover, my husband noted. Husband and I had on-ice seats and saw Ilya very clearly. We absolutely stick by our observations on Sept 2009. Good heavens, look at your own photos once again.
That said, he skated very well and we cheered him. But he looked bloated and much worse than he does now. He has definitely gotten back in shape and with a younger look. He looked 100-times better in Oct 2010.
Last edited by Frau Muller; 12-23-2010 at 06:43 PM.
You're right in that Ilia is not all things to all skating fans at all times or even some of the time; I never said he was. And I'm not saying you have to agree with me about Ilia but what you're willing to say about him in public with no basis in fact...that's my problem.
You felt the need to bring up the topic of his appearance and get in a few personal shots and have now up-ed the ante with a 'bad hangover' which is yet more supposition. You let insults fly like they're facts and they're not. They're opinions, guesses, suppositions, etc. and can be harmful to the individual about whom you're talking whether it happens to be Ilia or anyone else. This isn't just about him (although this discussion is), it's about how we talk about anyone when the words could affect their personal reputation. At best, it's careless.
You initiated the insults for no apparent reason; I responded. You didn't offend Kulik's Krew as the Krew, or Krew membership, has no bearing on this discussion. You offended me, as I think I made clear.
Last edited by Willowway; 12-24-2010 at 04:55 AM.
So are you offended of the 'insults' in general regardless of which skater the insults are directed towards or are you offended because they are directed towards Ilia whom you seem to consider as your 'son'? You don't have to get so defensive when a fellow FSWer doesn't paint a rosy picture of Ilia. Lots of FSWers make fun of other skater's appearances all the time, John Baldwin for example. I don't see you defending John Baldwin. They also speculate about other skaters, but I don't see you reprimanding them for speculating.
The original poster's message was placed in the correct forum. It certainly belongs in a trash can.
This discussion is definitely 'cooked' but one clarification.Hardly.I'm nutty but I'm not that nutty! If you read my post you'd have noticed that I tried to explain my fondness for Ilia in terms of my "sons' friends", not my sons (whom I love far more than I love any other people in the world - as it should be).Ilia whom you seem to consider as your 'son'?
Happy Holidays everyone!
Last edited by Willowway; 12-24-2010 at 03:22 PM.
If I wasn't feeling fat before I really do now.............Seriously ........you think he looked bloated? Merry Christmas everyone.........time to eat again.