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    US Lady with big jumps

    I just finished watching a lot of the upcoming junior ladies in the US and saw that their jumps werent all that big

    so if we also add the seniors who has big jumps?

    NOTICE: and so we dont have any really useless posting can we NOT talk about Rachael Flatt and Christina Gao (ehem: pinky)

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    What's your definition of "big"? Height, distance and/or a combination of both? What about consistency in competition? For example, Agnes Zawadzki probably has the best quality 3Lutz among the current US ladies when it comes to height and distance covered, but she didn't seem to have as good a consistency on this jump in her two Grand Prix events as she usually does.

    P.S. You can't really tell people how or what to post/not post on FSU.

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    How about any of the qualities you stated
    height, distance, both, and not close to UR

    hmm i forgot about zawadzki and tom's other students
    o i just remember, nagasu has the best 2axel in my opinion compared to most of the international skaters

    maybe if i say it twice they might see it
    NOT Rachael Flatt and Christina Gao (ehem pinky)

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    Agnes Zawadzki is the only one I can think of.

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    What U.S. juniors did you watch? For example, I think Courtney Hicks (SWP and Pacific Coast Jr. champion) has some gorgeous, big jumps.

    And like Sylvia mentioned, Zawadzki is probably the most naturally gifted jumper in the U.S., but her FS consistency just hasn't been there this season. The height, "hang time" and flow she gets on her jumps (notably the 3Lz) is world-class.

    Like it or not, Gao probably has the best 3F of all current U.S. ladies, and Flatt's looks much, much improved this season as well.

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    Bring back Tonya Harding.

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    Seconding Chipso1. Hicks is an impressive jumper & has been all the way up the levels. Having Nicks as a coach, now, will enhance her presence & finish so that she can transition effectively to the next nation and international levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loves_Shizuka View Post
    Bring back Tonya Harding.
    Right? I mean, she was horrible artistically, but those jumps

    Quote Originally Posted by just wondering View Post
    Seconding Chipso1. Hicks is an impressive jumper & has been all the way up the levels. Having Nicks as a coach, now, will enhance her presence & finish so that she can transition effectively to the next nation and international levels.
    I like Hicks a lot. Pacific Sections was a stacked junior field and she came out on top. I was disappointed that Wang and Keiser didn't qualify for nationals because I was hoping to see them.
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    Tonya Harding.

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    You act like this skater would somehow be competitive today, and somebody would want to watch her . . . At the time of the this clip, none of the "right" people thought so . . .

    1987 NHK Tonya Harding SP

    Its not like this program is a clinic on the IJS or anything . . . Oh, wait
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    Well, I was never one of the right people.

    I liked watching Tonya back then in 1987/1988.

    However, back then, figures were required.

    Loved that final spin

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    If she only had a full set of jumps... Amanda Dobbs has an amazing triple toe and triple salchow. The toe in particular covers a huge amount of distance, it's reminiscent of Nicole Bobek's triple toe.
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.

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    Zawadzki for sure. Gao has big toe pick jumps but the rest aren't that big. Amanda Dobbs has a huge 3t, can't say much about the rest of her triples because they don't seem that consistent yet. Ashley's jumps are pretty big but the 2footing often disguises it. Felicia Zhang has a killer 3lz when she lands it.

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    Tonya Harding had a certain charisma, not in the conventional sense, but I always enjoyed watching her more than Kerrigan. She was capable of artistic growth but too bad her head wasn't in the right place in later years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    Well, I was never one of the right people.

    I liked watching Tonya back then in 1987/1988.

    However, back then, figures were required.

    Loved that final spin
    Tonya never got a pair of "magic skates" from Carlo Fassi, like Trenary, so she had to wait until Trenary was not competitive anymore.

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    Katerina Kulgeyko has big jumps. Her 3lz-3t is awesome

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    icellist, if you want big jumps, consider watching the Men's competition.

    I'm not being catty, just realistic. There aren't too many international girls who can do big jumps, either. But why do big jumps specifically concern you? I'm more interesting in seeing well-rounded consistency...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKPRINCESS View Post
    icellist, if you want big jumps, consider watching the Men's competition.

    I'm not being catty, just realistic. There aren't too many international girls who can do big jumps, either. But why do big jumps specifically concern you? I'm more interesting in seeing well-rounded consistency...
    Too bad, none of our skaters are that either this season. I guess, Rachel but she is still not winning.

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    Was Tonya actually hurt by the removal of figures? She was certainly better than Yamaguchi, Kerrigan or Ito at them. Though I guess Trenary might have continued her career had figures continued to be included.

    And figures and the habit of having to do figures might have helped her focus on skating and not be so distracted by other things going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett View Post
    Too bad, none of our skaters are that either this season. I guess, Rachel but she is still not winning.
    I think that Rachael would have won SA had she been without injury.

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