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    qualification for Worlds?!

    Hello everyone,
    I think I've read somewhere a while ago that there would be a qualifying competition right before Worlds..for example, if the united states qualify alissa and Rachael at the US nationals, then Mirai, Ashley and others could attempt that competition and try to qualify there for Worlds? Does that make sense? Has anyone heard of that before?
    Thank you so much!

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    No, the US can only send a maximium of 2 ladies to worlds. This year skaters have to have a minium score to be allowed to compete so some skaters may have to compete to get that minium score to qualify, perhaps thats what you heard. For example Volosozhar/Trankov can't compete until Febraury because she has switched countries. Should they qualify for Worlds at Russian nationals they will have to do an international competition to achieve the minium score before they can go.

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    ok thanks! And what's that minimum score?

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    There is going to be a qualifying round at ISU Championships.

    Information on who has to go through it and who qualifies directly should be in the ISU communication which lists all the ISU Council decisions.

    HisWeirness posted it in the ISU Council thread as well.
    ETA: It's here:
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...=73904&page=11

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibi View Post
    And what's that minimum score?
    Here's another link to one of HisWeirness' summary posts on this topic: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...&postcount=409

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    So far in the GP, the only skaters who haven't reached the minimum score are Turoczi / Major, HUN (SD-NHK, 15.81 < 17) and Diane Szmiett CAN (FS-NHK 22.30 < 25 and FS-CoC 24.90 < 25).

    However, neither one is likely to qualify for a spot at Euros/4CC/Worlds within their own federations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    So far in the GP, the only skaters who haven't reached the minimum score are Turoczi / Major, HUN (SD-NHK, 15.81 < 17) and Diane Szmiett CAN (FS-NHK 22.30 < 25 and FS-CoC 24.90 < 25).

    However, neither one is likely to qualify for a spot at Euros/4CC/Worlds within their own federations.
    Hungary has two spots for Euros and Worlds so Turoczi/Major will most likely be on the team.

    They have another GP event so they are probably going to reach the minimum score there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe View Post
    So far in the GP, the only skaters who haven't reached the minimum score are Turoczi / Major, HUN (SD-NHK, 15.81 < 17) and Diane Szmiett CAN (FS-NHK 22.30 < 25 and FS-CoC 24.90 < 25).

    However, neither one is likely to qualify for a spot at Euros/4CC/Worlds within their own federations.
    Ugh, I don't even know what do say about Diane Szmiett.

    Look at her reaction.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AMwYG4kDjk

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    [bleh that was a stupid post - please delete]
    Last edited by Ziggy; 11-07-2010 at 09:16 PM.

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    I always feel badly for a skater who doesn't appear to be in the proper mental and/or physical state to compete for all the world to see. It's not like Szmiett is deliberately tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    I always feel badly for a skater who doesn't appear to be in the proper mental and/or physical state to compete for all the world to see. It's not like Szmiett is deliberately tanking.
    You're totally right, deleting my post. :/

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    I don't understand the minimum score for the Free dance. The minimum FD technical score is 28 points in the ISU rules, but 27 points in both announcements for Euros and Worlds? What does count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    I always feel badly for a skater who doesn't appear to be in the proper mental and/or physical state to compete for all the world to see. It's not like Szmiett is deliberately tanking.
    Yeah, something must be up with her, she's probably injured or depressed or gets wicked nervous before she skates or something. She's never been a great skater but she's certainly capable of being much, much better than she has been recently. I feel bad and hope she figures out what's wrong, addresses the issue, and bounces back soon. It's hard seeing someone be so miserable.

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    Thanks to Ziggy and Sylvia to linking to my post about the ISU rules (also linked to in my signature as "Summary of 2010 ISU Rule Changes").

    Diane Szmiett has met the ISU minimum techinical scores (SP/FS) based on her results last season.
    Turoczi / Major should be able to use their 24.20 in OD TES from 2010 Jr. Worlds and their 30.47 FD TES from 2010 NHK.

    Quote Originally Posted by elfenblüte View Post
    I don't understand the minimum score for the Free dance. The minimum FD technical score is 28 points in the ISU rules, but 27 points in both announcements for Euros and Worlds? What does count?
    That is an interesting discrepancy.

    ISU Communication 1621 item #16 lists the minimum free dance technical score as 28. I looked through all of the communications released since then and nothing has been issued that supersedes this statement in 1621.

    The technical rules state:
    Minimum Total Technical Scores:
    To be entered into and participate in the Championships/Preliminary Round of a Senior ISU Championships a Competitor/Couple must have reached in an ISU recognized International Competition (as per Article 38, paragraph 7 and Rule 107, paragraphs 1 to 9) during the ongoing or immediately preceding season the applicable minimum Total Technical Scores (points). The applicable minimum Total Technical Scores shall be decided for each season by the ISU Council based on a joint proposal from the respective Technical Committee and the Sports Directorate and shall be published in an ISU Communication.
    All I can think is that it is a typo in the Worlds and Euros announcements.

    Oh, and the ISU calls the first competitive round the "Preliminary Round" and not the qualification round.
    Last edited by HisWeirness; 11-08-2010 at 05:14 PM.

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    Does that mean that a result from an event like Nebelhorn doesn't count?

    Diane Szmiett had 124.87 total for her 6th place finish there earlier in the season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerek View Post
    Does that mean that a result from an event like Nebelhorn doesn't count?

    Diane Szmiett had 124.87 total for her 6th place finish there earlier in the season
    Good question.
    Nebelhorn scores count (ISU-recognized International Competitions), they are just harder to look up than the ISU Event scores.

    Regardless, Szmiett has met the minimum requirements for 2010-11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerek View Post
    Does that mean that a result from an event like Nebelhorn doesn't count?

    Diane Szmiett had 124.87 total for her 6th place finish there earlier in the season
    Something definitely must be up with her if she was scoring 30-40 points higher at Nebelhorn which was held just about a month before her GP events. Hope she bounces back soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisWeirness View Post
    That is an interesting discrepancy.

    ISU Communication 1621 item #16 lists the minimum free dance technical score as 28. I looked through all of the communications released since then and nothing has been issued that supersedes this statement in 1621.

    The technical rules state:


    All I can think is that it is a typo in the Worlds and Euros announcements.

    Oh, and the ISU calls the first competitive round the "Preliminary Round" and not the qualification round.
    Thank you!

    In the announcement for Four Continents, there is also a minimum score of 27 points listed!? I wonder why there are sooo many mistakes!
    I think the ISU should let the teams compete, who were able to get 27 points but not 28 points for technical in the FD.
    One team would benefit from that mistake!
    Last edited by elfenblüte; 11-09-2010 at 05:36 PM.

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