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    Come out, come out wherever you are!

    At this point, none of the Olympic champions are competing in the Grand Prix events (I am personally doubtful that V/M will be ready for TEB) - in your opinion- who will show themselves as the early favourites and why?


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    I think Davis-White will be in there own league in this season without V-M at GP, and then V-M couldnt be so ready for WCh (even if they will skate), like D-W will be after all this competition in the season.

    And i think Pan-Tong will be favorites of this season too.

    I am not sure somebody from OGM will return to compete (at least in this season). What do you think about this, PJ?

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    But when was the last time the Olympic champion went to the Grand Prix?
    I know Urmanov did, but anyone after him?

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    In think Yagudin made this. He skated at SA in 2002-2003 season. But then withdraw because his injury.

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    Current World Champs in 3 categories will be there and sure to dominate (Mao, Dai and Pang/Tong). I agree that, in Dance, Davis/White should be the class of the field BUT we all know how the Russian Federation has a way of "ensuring" Instant-Dance-Champs who go straight to the top after Juniors or even from the middle of the pack at the last Olympics...so I would not be surprised to suddenly see Bobrova/Soloviev or even Ilynikh/Katsapolov (sp?) suddenly jump to the senior podium. Piseev knows what wheels to grease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frau Muller View Post
    BUT we all know how the Russian Federation has a way of "ensuring" Instant-Dance-Champs who go straight to the top after Juniors or even from the middle of the pack at the last Olympics...so I would not be surprised to suddenly see Bobrova/Soloviev or even Ilynikh/Katsapolov (sp?) suddenly jump to the senior podium. Piseev knows what wheels to grease.

    But maybe not in this season

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    B&S's SD sucks, so they're gonna need a kick-ass FD to keep them in the running imo.

    It's I&K's first year as seniors, so I wouldn't count on them getting on a major podium this season. But yes, by the Olympics, I think they'll be top contenders.

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    Yagudin went to Skate America against his doctor's advice, then had to withdraw. He ended his amateur career later in that season. (Oops, the same answer as Pani gave.)

    Urmanov continued his amateur career, but did skip the earlier competitions the year after his 1994 Olympic gold.

    Other than Yagudin, to my knowledge, none of the olympic champions participated in the ISU Grand prix series the year after their olympic golds since the beginning of the ISU champions series (1995) until this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pani View Post
    But maybe not in this season
    Yeah, maybe the Alfa Bank closed down Piseev's account.
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    I don’t think P/T are the clear cut favorites in pairs – IMO, they’re way overated and were incredibly gifted in the LP at Worlds. S/S are better when they’re on – the problem is that they’re not on often enough. It’ll come down to who is better on the day.

    Mao is way ahead of the pack this year, but she can be inconsistent. Miki should still do well, and I hope Nagasu can make a big move. I’ll be interested to see how newcomers Murakami and Zawadzki do this year.

    No one can beat Daisuke when he’s on, IMO.

    As for dance, with V/M gone, D/W should easily dominate. I also expect Pechalat/Bourzat and Crone/Poirier to do well. I hope I/K do well, but I’m not counting on it – but for the record, I think they desere every single point they’ve earned if not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    I hope I/K do well, but I’m not counting on it
    Why not?

    Just curious.

    I think they can make top 10 at least.

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    Oh, everyone seems to be predicting that they'll win medals everywhere due to Piseev (). I'm just trying to keep realistic expectations - that they will do well, but not spectacularly. They are young and new to the senior scene, after all. I definitely think they can make top 10 at Worlds and top 5 at Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    Oh, everyone seems to be predicting that they'll win medals everywhere due to Piseev (). I'm just trying to keep realistic expectations - that they will do well, but not spectacularly. They are young and new to the senior scene, after all. I definitely think they can make top 10 at Worlds and top 5 at Europeans.
    Oh yeah, I get where you're coming from.

    They ain't G&G and this isn't pairs, they're not gonna win Worlds straight off.

    If B&S do well on the GP, I think they'll be Russia number 1, but if not, I think I&K might get that push.

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    Theoretically Mao should dominate in ladies, but she has a problem with consistency. Nagasu or Flatt could challenge her. If Lepisto gets healthy, she's always a challenge.

    Adam Rippon should move into the top ranks this season. Abbott is like Mao in some ways. He has the talent, but nobody knows what he'll do until the skate is over.

    Pairs will be dominated by the Russians this quad, but this year is somewhat open due to injuries and partner changes. P/T may stay on top of the podium, but this is the last year for them. There are too many much better Russian teams that will be in play by next season. S/S may be hungry enough for a world title. I'm not certain if they're hungry enough to hang in for four more years.
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    I agree, I think Adam will be a big challenger for men. I don't think Abbott will stay atop much, but we'll see.

    Mao and Mirai...and maybe Rachael if she improved her presentation.

    I know nothing about pairs...although I hope a pair comes along that grabs my attention again like Shen and Zhao did, or a good Russian pair. It used to be one of my favorites to watch...now I'm rather meh about it.

    Davis and White will be at the top I think, in dance, providing they didn't try to deviate *too* much from what they've been doing.

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    For dance it is an easy guess: D/W. They are ahead of the pack, and with B/A and D/S retired they on paper seem to be ahead of the pack.

    For pairs I don't think there is a clear favorite. Both P/T and S/S did very well last year. K/S are out of the GP? so they can't be an 'early favorite', but they will be in the mix. There is also a lot of new pairs formed with top skaters, they could make a splash.

    For ladies, it will probably be Mao Asada, however last year she was inconsistent in the GP. Miki Ando will be another contender. Carolina Kostner is very inconsistent, and I think it may be hit and miss from the American and Finnish ladies. If Joannie Rochette competes this season I would not count her out, she will be in the top.

    The men will depend on how Daisuke's knee holds up, but he is the one to beat. I think he will be the clear favorite.

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    Pairs is pretty boring this year, not many top teams. P/T and S/S will win both of their competions and D/D will win Canada and atleast a second place in Russia depending how well K/S skate. Those three will be medalists in the GPF unless someone implodes. B/L should be second at both competitions (maybe 3rd, but I doubt it) and about 4th or 5th in the GPF depending how the two America teams skate. E/L, D/B and B/L will fight for the 4-6th places.

    I hope the other teams use this opportunity to get some much needed expirence, I can only assume once the Russian teams come back next year (K/S, V/T and M/B) the field will be crowded and some pairs won't get to skate as much.

    I wish they would expand the pairs to 10 and not just 8.

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    Ashley Wagner has---in an unusually short time---corrected her technique problems. This was even commented on by one of the reviewers of ATS. So I expect her to do well.
    Actually I think the finals will consist of 3 Japanese ladies and 3 American ladies: Asada,
    Ando, Suzuki and Wagner, Flatt, Nagasu.

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    Based on the title, I thought this thread was going to be about something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casken View Post
    Based on the title, I thought this thread was going to be about something else.
    Oh, Casken -- me too.

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