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    And in true fashion, the record label will release the songs she didn't write. Coz that's how they seem to roll for the Idols, unfortunately (at least on their first albums, anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruss View Post
    And in true fashion, the record label will release the songs she didn't write. Coz that's how they seem to roll for the Idols, unfortunately (at least on their first albums, anyway).
    I was thinking the same thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    I was thinking the same thing!
    Me, too. In fact, I wonder if Kris already has warned her of this.

    But, since they do like to take advantage of other big names (like that mess of a single, "The Truth"), maybe we can hope for a single that features Melissa Etheridge on guitar.

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    I think that is a really good compromise. I am sure the lead single will probably be one of the songs they force her to record and put on the album but she needs to just take it and get it over with. What good will it do to release a single that will go no where really fast? At least the lead single may garner her a few new fans who will also enjoy her self penned material and they will follow her throughout her career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I am sure the lead single will probably be one of the songs they force her to record and put on the album but she needs to just take it and get it over with. What good will it do to release a single that will go no where really fast?
    Um, like "The Truth?" Just because a song is written by someone else doesn't mean it will make a good single, and it's entirely possible that one of the songs that Crystal writes would be a good single. We won't know until we get the album. I'm hoping that she has come up with a good single with Melissa Etheridge or Michael Franti so that the label will be more willing to give it a shot.

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    I don't believe Crystal is capable of coming up with a radio friendly single herself. Even if she writes with Franti or Ethridge. I am talking about top 40 radio, here, since that is undoubtedly where the label will attempt to strike even if we all know better and that life isn't all about top 40. Anyway, Crystal makes some great music but she doesn't create anything close to a top 40 sound and the only way she will have a song like that will be to work heavily with someone else and I don't mean just rearranging one of her songs. I can't look into the future but I will be SHOCKED if her first single is a song she wrote all on her own or before Idol. I am sure she will write on it but it will be more like her writing to be a preselected track done by a bigger name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I can't look into the future but I will be SHOCKED if her first single is a song she wrote all on her own or before Idol.
    Oh, I think we all will be shocked if that happens. Several of us have said it won't happen. But, that's different from what you said earlier, which was basically saying that any single involving her writing would go nowhere fast, which wouldn't necessarily be true if it were arranged right and sent to the right radio stations.

    It's also not the case that her single would do well if she just recorded one given to her by Jive and tailored to top 40. That's not what she's comfortable doing, and she doesn't seem particularly good at towing the company line and just promoting something she doesn't like or believe in. And what's the point in doing a top 40 beat-oriented, manufactured song if the rest of the album is very different? That seems a stupid business plan. I can understand why she doesn't just "take it" like you said she should. It's not good for her career and she would be miserable.

    I'm cautiously optimistic that Jive has learned some lessons and realizes it would be stupid to try to turn Crystal into Ke$ha or Rhianna. According to David Bendeth, he is producing Crystal's entire album, which would suggest we won't hear much, if any, top 40 music on there. That's not what he does.

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    So, does she have a shot at HAC or aC radio? Apparently, AAA stations (the ones who play Sheryl Crowe, Ray LaMontagne, and Michael Franti) aren't receptive to Idol alumni. Or at least, that's what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    So, does she have a shot at HAC or aC radio? Apparently, AAA stations (the ones who play Sheryl Crowe, Ray LaMontagne, and Michael Franti) aren't receptive to Idol alumni. Or at least, that's what I hear.
    When she was in San Francisco for the Power to the Peaceful Festival, she performed on Alice radio. That station plays a little bit of Sheryl Crowe and Franti (and doesn't play Kesha, Usher, etc.), but are more of the Sara Bareilles, Lifehouse, Script, Pink, Train type of music. They also play music from Idols such as Kelly, Kris, and Cook. I have no doubt they would play Crystal if she had a good song that fit their format. Franti plugged Crystal on KFOG, which is the station that plays the artists you mention a lot. KFOG doesn't play many Idols. But, to be honest, none of the past Idols fit their format. How many Idols really have produced music in the vein of Ray Lamontagne and Sheryl Crowe?

    I saw the Avett Brothers in concert today. I was stunned at how many people came to see them. Tens of thousands. The place was packed and overflowing. It just goes to show that you don't need to be played on top 40 radio to be really popular. You just need to play the music that suits you and get played on the stations that suit you.

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    Where did the Avett Brothers play that would holds tens of thousands of seats!? I wouldn't expect them to be doing arenas unless this was some kind of festival or something with multiple artists.
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    The Alice radio station is an HAC station, so that playlist makes sense. HAC and AC play a lot of music by Idols. I remember Adam doing a few interviews for that station.

    KFOG is AAA. That's good that Franti plugged her. AAA is kind of a mix between HAC and more alternative artists like Franti. The reason why I said that AAA hasn't been receptive to Idols is that Nickelback and Lifehouse do chart on AAA, but for some reason, Daughtry, who I think has a pretty similar sound, has never made it on there. Maybe RCA never bothered sending Daughtry's songs for AAA adds.

    I hope Crystal finds her niche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    KFOG is AAA. That's good that Franti plugged her. AAA is kind of a mix between HAC and more alternative artists like Franti. The reason why I said that AAA hasn't been receptive to Idols is that Nickelback and Lifehouse do chart on AAA, but for some reason, Daughtry, who I think has a pretty similar sound, has never made it on there. Maybe RCA never bothered sending Daughtry's songs for AAA adds.
    Maybe Lifehouse and Nickelback get played on some AAA stations, but I don't think I've ever heard them on KFOG and I listen to that station a lot. If they do get play at stations like that, I don't think it's a lot. Those two get plenty of play on Alice. I see Daughtry as being more HAC, and he definitely gets plenty of play on Alice. (I think Adam is a bit more on the pop/top 40 side for them, but I have heard him on there a couple of times.)

    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    Where did the Avett Brothers play that would holds tens of thousands of seats!? I wouldn't expect them to be doing arenas unless this was some kind of festival or something with multiple artists.
    It was a festival. They were playing at the same time as some pretty popular acts. It was foggy and drizzling and getting pretty cold at dusk. But, people were literally climbing trees and rocks on the hills off to the side in order to see them because they could not fit any more people on the ground. Although the Avett Brothers do get good radio play on KFOG (and got play on their Sunday acoustic show even before they got more popular with this new album), I still was surprised to see how many fans they had. People who listen only to top 40 radio have no idea who they are, but it really doesn't matter because those aren't the people who would want to buy their album or come to their concerts.

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    So, it sounds like Crystal really likes her producer. Also, in her latest interview, she now says that only one of the songs on the album will be a song she didn't play a role in writing:

    http://mix1051.radio.com/2010/10/05/...e-morning-mix/

    Kelly was on a tweeting frenzy last night and says that her album is almost done, but won't be out until the beginning of the year with a single out before them. Also some duets.

    http://twitter.com/kelly_clarkson#

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    I still don't believe Kelly when she says the single will be out this year. I would LOVE to be wrong as I want new music but it is rare to release a song so late in the year when your album drops next year. Most people avoid the holiday freeze so their singles are usually out by November at the latest. I guess they figure Kelly is a big enough name that she can easily ride out the holiday freeze and pick back up in the new year. Maybe they can play their cards a little differently and hold out on what they think is the best single to release 2nd to coincide with the album release.

    Glad Crystal seems a bit happier since her rant on twitter. Maybe it was just a really bad day.

    Oh, and Kelly said the duets she has on her album are with people she has never recorded with before but has sang with. It is a pretty small list for the female choice. Daughtry seems a sure thing as the male choice. People are questioning whether she would duet with 2 Idols on one album (Daughtry didn't win but still came from the same machine). If it isn't an Idol then a lot of people hope it is Melissa Etheridge (performed together on Diva's). I still think it is Carrie (she has tweeted she has some surprise projects coming up) or Fantasia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    I still don't believe Kelly when she says the single will be out this year. I would LOVE to be wrong as I want new music but it is rare to release a song so late in the year when your album drops next year.
    I think you're right. They're not going to drop the single just as radio is starting to play lots of Christmas music.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    Glad Crystal seems a bit happier since her rant on twitter. Maybe it was just a really bad day.
    I think it was a very bad day. It was the day someone told her via twitter that the label had put her album up for pre-sale with a fall date. She seemed really taken aback by that. I don't think she had been informed of that by the label. She settled down the next day, said she knew how luck she was and that she was going to get herself an attitude adjustment.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    If it isn't an Idol then a lot of people hope it is Melissa Etheridge (performed together on Diva's). I still think it is Carrie (she has tweeted she has some surprise projects coming up) or Fantasia.
    Please, please, please not Fantasia. Her singing is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I think Reba is much more likely than Melissa, especially since Melissa has been working with Crystal. And didn't Kelly say at some point that there might be a little bit of country on there? But that could be Carrie. Or even Daughtry. Daughtry would be my first choice out of those.

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    It can't be Reba since they have already recorded together (Because of You, country version, which went to #2 on the country charts).
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    Jive is releasing "Alright With Me" as Kris' next single.

    Words cannot express how much I dislike that song. I could break out into hives when I listen to it, and I've felt that way since last November. Agggggh! I do not want this on my radio! (I choose to ignore all of the people who genuinely think this song is the best on the album. )

    Ahem, anyway. There are at least three songs that I would have chosen over this one. *sigh*

    ETA:
    IIHY has gone gold now in the US. Of course, RCA is probably not going to release another single. I don't understand the logic. I'm hoping they will still release something in Canada. Over 75,000 people attended Adam's concert in Montreal (part of the International Balloon Festival), breaking that event's record. He's had enough success in Canada, that I'm almost certain that anything he would release would go top 10. Do it, RCA...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    Jive is releasing "Alright With Me" as Kris' next single.

    Words cannot express how much I dislike that song. I could break out into hives when I listen to it, and I've felt that way since last November.
    Tell us how you really feel. How can you not love this song? It's written with Joe King of The Fray, so it's got to be just as good as The Truth by Pat Monahan.

    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    Ahem, anyway. There are at least three songs that I would have chosen over this one. *sigh*
    Which would you have chosen? I like Alright With Me, but for some reason I think of it as more of a summer song. I think I would have chosen Can't Stay Away From You as the next single.

    Estimated first week sales for Archie are 25,000.

    Lee's first single is coming out soon. I wonder when we'll get Crystal's single.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allskate View Post
    How can you not love this song? It's written with Joe King of The Fray, so it's got to be just as good as The Truth by Pat Monahan.


    Which would you have chosen? I like Alright With Me, but for some reason I think of it as more of a summer song. I think I would have chosen Can't Stay Away From You as the next single.
    I would have chosen "Written All Over My Face" or "Can't Stay Away." Maybe even "Before We Come Undone" or release "Send Me All Your Angels" as a single. LLWD was a popular song, and WAOMF sounds very similar (probably because they're written by the same group). Catchy, hooky, upbeat. Same goes for "Can't Stay Away." Trying to deviate from the sound that gave you your first hit with the next single usually backfires, I think, because that's not what people liked you for. (Same reason why I wanted "Sleepwalker" for Adam before IIHY was released.)

    I suppose AWM has a sound more suited for the summer, but I can't stand it for any season. Those jangly guitars and horns and "Yea, Yea, Yea"s give me the opposite of ear candy.

    Estimated first week sales for Archie are 25,000.
    Not surprised. Almost no one knew this was coming out and none of his singles have been really working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cailuj365 View Post
    Jive is releasing "Alright With Me" as Kris' next single.

    Words cannot express how much I dislike that song. I could break out into hives when I listen to it, and I've felt that way since last November. Agggggh! I do not want this on my radio! (I choose to ignore all of the people who genuinely think this song is the best on the album. )


    cailuj365 thinks Kris is going to get radio airplay.



    That is so cute.

    It's official. I am madly in love with Meryl Davis.

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