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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacey View Post
    http://www.aolnews.com/world/article..._lnk1%7C176609

    Says the rescuers are fighting over who will be last out.

    ETA, sorry, mostly the same article as above.
    This article says that, upon further questioning, the miners admitted that the fight over who goes last was not about wanting to wait until everyone else was safe. Rather, it was about wanting the world record for longest time trapped underground.

    On a serious note, I wonder if anyone has volunteered to go first, essentially be a guinea pig.

    Other articles have noted that the men requested a lawyer to draft a contract that all proceeds from future movies and books be split among them, and another document agreeing to not publicly discuss what happened in the 17 days before they were discovered.

    With this many miners involved, I smell a lot of future battles among the miners and also among the miners' families.

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    There are specially trained firefighters/paramedics who do "cave" collapsing and things like that. They train for hundreds of hours for every possible scenario and travel over the world to help out during earthquakes and things like that. Just a little FYI. It's just amazing that after this long of a time that there are survivors and things have managed to progress.

    I'll be checking online to catch up with current events.

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    They'll start the rescue at midnight Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Each trip will take 15 minutes. They'll be seen at a medical area nearby and then flown to a hospital for further tests/treatment.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americ...ex.html?hpt=T1

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    I just saw a clip of the capsule on tv, and OMG I'd need a valium - but then again I'd probably never survive as a miner so they're probably much better equipped for this.
    "The Devil is joining in, and that's never a good sign." Phil Liggett

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    Yowza that's a tight fit!! I'd need valium too for sure!!

    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/apps/p...PH&located=rss

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    Chile miners rescue to start earlier

    An operation to hoist 33 trapped Chile miners to the surface has been brought forward and will begin earlier than expected, at 8pm on Tuesday (1000 AEDT), a government spokesman said.

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    According to CNN they will start to bring them up tonight and the only issue now is who will be brought up last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    According to CNN they will start to bring them up tonight and the only issue now is who will be brought up last.
    It has been decided to have the shift foreman up last. As the rescue team said, the captain is the last to leave the boat.

    But in reality, the last person will be one of the rescue specialists sent down to help them.

    The question is, who will be the first? Apparently no one volunteered to go first because that meant serving as a guinea pig. Now that they've been informed that one of the rescue specialists is willing to be the guinea pig, it might have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backspin View Post
    Yowza that's a tight fit!! I'd need valium too for sure!!

    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/apps/p...PH&located=rss
    Seriously. I don't even like laying down in the MRI machine. I can only imagine what they'll be going through...

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    Eeeyikes! That's tight. I'm so clausterphobic that I even feel trapped in an open MRI. But, therefore of course I'd have never been down in a mine in the first place.

    With their impending freedom in mind, I'm sure that even the most nervy of the guys will get by ... just shut your eyes and sing all the words to your favorite songs as you rise.

    are they really sure that those, er, larger men we saw a few weeks ago are now small enough for that thing?

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    I cannot imagine even staying in my apartment for two months non-stop without being able to leave. Never mind being hold up buried underground with no sunlight and no way out for so long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by backspin View Post
    Yowza that's a tight fit!! I'd need valium too for sure!!

    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/apps/p...PH&located=rss
    I'm so claustrophobic that I can't bring myself to open the link.

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    Looking at that I can't figure out how they could maneuver to get out the emergency hatch if there was a problem.

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    I think I read they could rappel either up or down out of that hatch (if it got stuck or ran into rock problems), ya right.

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    That's a tight fit.

    After having an initial fear (and probably some had absolute certainty) that they'd die down there, they ended up being found and then were provided for as much as possible in that situation. They probably felt a little bit safe. The fear of leaving the place they've been "safe" in is probably strong, since they know that how they are getting out has never been done before. Perfectly reasonable from a psychological point of view. But, I know I they all will get in there. I mean, there are only 2 choices: stay or go. These men have been through so much, and this small thing is all that separates them from finally having freedom.

    I know i"ll be watching tonight, and although we won't see the actual miners, to hear that siren each time someone comes up safely, will be fantastic.

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    Yahoo News has streaming video from ABC on its site of the rescue attempt

    Is there a reason they're doing this at night? I'd think daylight would be easier, although maybe too bright for the miners? Or do they just want to do this as soon as possible. (I'm at work so I can't really watch the news)
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    Another live stream: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...32101#39632101

    They showed the man who is coming up first. My first thought: ah, he's the cutest!

    They said they are doing it at night because they are ready ahead of schedule. Bonus is that the miners won't have to deal with sunlight, but bad news is a fog frequently comes in that will prevent the helicopter from taking them to the hospital and they'll have to go by bus, which will take 5x as long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Kitty View Post
    Is there a reason they're doing this at night? I'd think daylight would be easier, although maybe too bright for the miners? Or do they just want to do this as soon as possible. (I'm at work so I can't really watch the news)
    I thought that it was they wanted to do it as soon as possible. It originally was scheduled for 4-5 later than it now is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Kitty View Post
    Is there a reason they're doing this at night? I'd think daylight would be easier, although maybe too bright for the miners? Or do they just want to do this as soon as possible. (I'm at work so I can't really watch the news)
    They want to do it as soon as possible, that's the main reason. There have been earth tremors near the mine in recent days

    Interestingly, originally they had wanted to do all the rescues at night because they feared what sunlight would do to the men's eyes after living in the dark for two months. Now they have special sunglasses to block out the sun, but up until very recently there was still talk of doing them only at night in case a guy took off the sunglasses in excitement, or the glasses fell off.

    Chilean news sources are reporting that the second-in-command (the one after the shift foreman) will be the first out, and the shift foreman will be the last.

    In other news, the Chilean government isn't releasing a video the men took of their reaction the moment the drill broke through. Supposedly it's one of the most incredible displays of joy ever. But the government won't release it because the drilling company sent t-shirts to the men for them to wear at that moment, which they did, so the video is like an advertisement for the company.

    So Pinera gets to boost his ratings by introducing baby Esperanza to her father (he insisted that he do it rather than the mother), but the drill company isn't allowed to have a little free publicity

    ETA: Another consideration for selecting Avalos first--I'm purely speculating--may have been the fact that both he and his brother are in the mine. Imagine what their parents have been going through the last two months, having not one but two kids there!
    Last edited by Gazpacho; 10-13-2010 at 12:55 AM.

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    When are they expecting the first miner to be out?

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