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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Who wanted a spot for Angela Wang?) She replaces Gao in Japan: http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00007114.htm
    Christina's first start is Brasov - and it's directly before the JGP in Japan. I think it's wise decision to withdraw her I'm sure she'll get another spot somewhere else.
    I thought Christina was competing in Graz, not Brasov. Maybe I'm mistaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky166 View Post
    I thought Christina was competing in Graz, not Brasov. Maybe I'm mistaken?
    No, you're not, that's my mistake, sorry Of course, Graz. But other points are still true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Who wanted a spot for Angela Wang?) She replaces Gao in Japan... I think it's wise decision to withdraw her [Gao] I'm sure she'll get another spot somewhere else.
    HURRAY that Angela Wang officially got her first-ever JGP assignment!

    Eris, Gao was listed just as a 'placeholder' on the initial JGP Japan roster that was published online -- her getting a 2nd assignment will depend on how she places in her first JGP in Graz, Austria. Here's what I posted earlier in the Kiss and Cry forum:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    In the past, the U.S. JGP skaters have been told that the entries published on the ISU site after the first several JGP events should be considered as 'placeholder names' and that their official assignments will be confirmed directly to them by USFS.

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    That's really exciting for Angela. I think she could probably medal at that event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    Eris, Gao was listed just as a 'placeholder' on the initial JGP Japan roster that was published online -- her getting a 2nd assignment will depend on how she places in her first JGP in Graz, Austria. Here's what I posted earlier in the Kiss and Cry forum:
    Oh, Sylvia, thank you, I miss that fact. Anyway, it's better for Christina not to compete in Japan.

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    Moved the following 4 posts from the JGP Japan thread in Kiss and Cry because I think it's more relevant here :
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    I am so happy USFS decided to deviate from Nationals results a little bit. Perhaps they learned their lesson after Zawadzki got 2nd in her first ever international, Junior Worlds, but was not invited to participate on the JGP.
    Quote Originally Posted by chipso1 View Post
    Angela was 7th at Nationals as a junior last year, whereas Agnes didn't make it out of Sectionals the year before. While I do think an exception should have been made for Agnes last year, I don't think assigning Angela this year is that big of a stretch. She's had great summer results so far, and everyone who finished above her at Nationals (except Zawadzki, who is on the SGP, and Zhang, who has a senior pairs assignment) already received an initial event.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Agreed [happy that USFS decided to deviate from Nationals results a little bit]....it would really make my day if Gracie Gold (who was excellent in her summer comps) gets one of the later assignments if any spots open up. I know its very unlikely, but she's done better this summer than Cain and Kulgeyko (not sure how Vanessa Lam has done).
    Quote Originally Posted by sammyf View Post
    Actually they didn't deviate from Nationals results. They simply coundn't send Zhang, she'll be in Germany for pairs at the exact same time.
    However, Siraj theoretically could have been sent to Japan instead of Wang.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 09-01-2010 at 07:29 PM.

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    I believe they did deviate a bit...they could have not assigned Wang at all and just reassigned everyone that placed higher than her in Spokane. The previous year USFSA only assigned the top 4 Juniors at Nationals (Leng, Kawamura, Gao, and Gong). Wyckoff, Cesario, and Dobbs were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    I believe they did deviate a bit...they could have not assigned Wang at all and just reassigned everyone that placed higher than her in Spokane. The previous year USFSA only assigned the top 4 Juniors at Nationals (Leng, Kawamura, Gao, and Gong). Wyckoff, Cesario, and Dobbs were not.
    I would assume Angela was assigned to the JGP this far in advance because of her great performances at summer competitions. I know Agnes did great at summer comps last year and didn't go to the JGP, but she also didn't qualify for nationals; Angela qualified for and competed at nationals, she just had a rough FS there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Oh, Sylvia, thank you, I miss that fact. Anyway, it's better for Christina not to compete in Japan.
    Why? Because she coaches under Orser? Or because she is Chinese?

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    I read Eris' post simply as meaning it was better/more logical for Gao not to compete in back-to-back weeks (Austria then Japan). ETA: For the record, Gao was never officially assigned to Japan but Eris didn't know this and that's why I posted an explanation.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 09-01-2010 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    The previous year USFSA only assigned the top 4 Juniors at Nationals (Leng, Kawamura, Gao, and Gong). Wyckoff, Cesario, and Dobbs were not.
    There really is no "set formula" for JGP selection from year to year because the fields at Nationals (Senior/Junior/Novice) can vary in depth, in the number of JGP age-eligible Senior ladies and Senior/Junior men, in the level of technical difficulty attempted/executed in programs, etc. Another thing to keep in mind is that the USFS' selection committee (ICMS) usually changes a few voting members each year, and so a change of personnel often can result in different "philosophies" of selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia View Post
    I read Eris' post simply as meaning it was better/more logical for Gao not to compete in back-to-back weeks (Austria then Japan).
    Yes, you completely understand me.

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    Moved these posts from the Golden West club competition thread in the Kiss and Cry forum because it's relevant to the discussion here.

    Leah Keiser and Courtney Hicks placed 1-2 in the Junior Ladies event at Golden West this past weekend. Keiser's total score was 146.14 (51.41, 1st in SP + 94.73, 2nd in FS) and Hicks' was 145.71 (49.21, 2nd in SP + 96.50, 1st in FS).
    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    And Courtney Hicks also did really well. Is she JGP eligible? Because she has been excellent during club competitions. Both her and Keiser could really contend for the national Junior title, since most of the JGP ladies are competing as seniors.
    Quote Originally Posted by haribobo View Post
    Vanessa Lam scored 106 in the [Golden West Senior Ladies] FS! In doing so, she now has the second highest total score of the summer/fall season, just one point behind Christina Gao. Good for her! It's funny to think she is currently one of the best US ladies and she might not get any international competition...it would be nice if she could get on the JGP but I'm not sure whether the spots will be there. Either way, the future looks bright!
    Well, I'm not sure if Jiang will get a second assignment, and I doubt Davis will, based on her [Golden West Senior SP] score here and technical content (I think she can be a real star in pairs, though). It's not unlikely that another US lady will not be assigned to a second event, and I'd love to see Vanessa get that spot based on her summer results.
    Courtney Hicks was 5th in Novice Ladies at 2010 U.S. Nationals and will turn 15 in December. She is not listed in USFS' International Selection Pool (ISP), so it's unlikely she will be considered for a JGP this year. She switched coaches to John Nicks this season.

    Vanessa Lam, who turned 15 this past June, is in the ISP due to her 8th place finish in Junior Ladies at 2010 Nationals. She and Felicia Zhang (6th in Junior at Nationals) are the likely next 2 in line for a JGP spot if one opens up. With Yasmin Siraj due for a 2nd assignment (#5 in Sheffield, I assume), that means there are 5 spots left and 6 ladies still to compete (Cesario and Gong in Romania this week, Gao and Davis in Austria next week, and Baga and Wang in Japan the week after that).

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    Thanks for the answer, Sylvia! Courtney has improved a lot this summer.

    Like I mentioned in the other thread, the Junior competition at Nationals could be really exciting, with Hicks, Keiser, Wang, Gold, Jiang and Daniels all doing well so far this season.
    Adelina Sotnikova is the 2014 Olympic champion!

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    Here's what was posted in the Senior Ladies thread about two of the more competitive-looking Junior Ladies fields at Regionals:
    Quote Originally Posted by jlai View Post
    I have the following down as going to SWP:

    Jr ladies favorites:
    Courtney Hicks
    Leah Keiser
    Katarina Kulgeyko
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    For Southwestern jr ladies:
    The favorites are
    Nina Jiang
    Ashley Cain
    Lauren Dinh
    McKinzie Daniels
    Here's the Scoretracker for Junior Ladies (more updates will be coming soon): http://unseenskaters.wordpress.com/s...adies-results/

    If Mary Beth Marley (UGL) elects to compete in singles at Regionals, she may end up in SWP because of her new Senior pairs partnership with Rockne Brubaker (Pacific Coast Sectionals).

    Victoria Hecht (SWP) competed for Hungary last season in pairs (JGP and Europeans) -- I assume she may be able to compete in singles at Regionals this season because it's a different discipline?

    Nina Jiang's ISU scores at JGP Courchevel -- 48.06 (SP) + 83.02 (FS) = 131.08 -- have been added to Scoretracker since it's her high score so far this season.

    Katja Gorodetsky (SW) is registered to compete Novice at this weekend's club comp. in Colorado so it's likely that she is dropping back down for Regionals.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 09-14-2010 at 03:21 AM.

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    I thought Daniels was UGL... has she changed regions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgobluegirl View Post
    I thought Daniels was UGL... has she changed regions?
    Yes, Daniels has switched to Broadmoor SC.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinky166 View Post
    Does Nina really have to do regionals where she competed on the JGP? I mean, it makes sense for her to do sectionals, but regionals?
    Yes. Jiang's JGP assignment (Aug. 23-28) was held well over a month before SW Regionals (Oct. 15-19). For the past several years, a second JGP assignment for singles skaters has resulted in a bye through Regionals (no matter what the dates of the JGP and Regional are), which I think is fair and logical.
    Last edited by Sylvia; 09-14-2010 at 04:01 AM.

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    Ok, well she should make it through regionals no problem, i'm just surprised she has to go.

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    Vanessa LAM is now listed as an alternate for the JGP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinky166 View Post
    Ok, well she should make it through regionals no problem, i'm just surprised she has to go.
    Upsets do happen in competitions. All it takes is for the favorites to have a bad skating day

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