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    Quad twist

    Which pairs besides Gordeeva and Grinkov have landed clean quad twists in competition?

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    Obertas/Slavnov landed it at 2005 Worlds, but it wasn't too clean:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvontQSgz7g

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    Dan Zhang & Hao Zhang performed one. I don't remember where or when, though.

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    Marina Cherkasova & Sergei Shakhrai reportedly did it at the 1977 Europeans but the footage I have starts mid-way through the LP. They tried it at 1978 Europeans and Worlds but bother were under-rotated. However I have this clip which I uploaded a while ago which is from a documentary on soviet skating and shows a fully rotated quad twist which they performed at the 1977/78 USSR Nationals in Vilnius. It's a two-footed catch by him but this is the cleanest one I ever saw them do. It's at 0:43....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1b8N...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikiAndoFan#1 View Post
    Dan Zhang & Hao Zhang performed one. I don't remember where or when, though.
    They did it at 2001 or 2002 Junior Worlds IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikiAndoFan#1 View Post
    Dan Zhang & Hao Zhang performed one. I don't remember where or when, though.
    I seem to recall they did a quad twist at Junior Worlds (and won the title... so 2001, I think?). I don't recall hearing about them doing one in senior ranks though.

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    Didn't a pair in the 70's do a quint twist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafygreens View Post
    Didn't a pair in the 70's do a quint twist?
    Wasn't that Cherkasova and Shakhrai? I never saw an actual program from them, but I thought I read it somewhere. They look so funny in pics because of the huge size difference haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    Wasn't that Cherkasova and Shakhrai? I never saw an actual program from them, but I thought I read it somewhere. They look so funny in pics because of the huge size difference haha.
    I remember physically that they looked funny together. But I must have been mistaken - Wikipedia states that they were the first to do the quad twist - nothing about a quint. I find nothing about any skaters ever doing a quint.

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    It might have been the quad twist I read.. it was a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_idealist View Post
    Wasn't that Cherkasova and Shakhrai? I never saw an actual program from them, but I thought I read it somewhere. They look so funny in pics because of the huge size difference haha.
    My understanding is they were the first couple to do it.
    When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.

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    I don't claim to know everything about skating but I feel really certain that no one has ever done a quint ANYTHING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10J View Post
    Which pairs besides Gordeeva and Grinkov have landed clean quad twists in competition?
    1987 worlds pairs: long program

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    Carman & Knierim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCld...eature=related

    But it was back when she was tiny.

    Just as G&G ditched the quad twist after Katia grew a bit.

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    floskate shared this:

    1977-78 Marina Cherkasova & Sergei Shakhrai - Rotated Quad twist and Triple Toeloops
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1b8NF9MhYs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    Carman & Knierim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCld...eature=related

    But it was back when she was tiny.

    Just as G&G ditched the quad twist after Katia grew a bit.
    I thought Katia said they ditched it because it took so much energy for so little return from the judges in the marks. Many of them thought it was a triple.

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    ^ I also remember this. They were going to get the same marks with a Quad Twist if they executed a perfect easier routine, so they went for the perfect routine since this was the Holy Grail of 6.0 skating.

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    I found it highly coincidental that they stopped using it when they did.

    I believe she did say that, but I don't recall whether it was in her book or whether it was from an interview.

    It was also true their quad looked a lot better when she was littler and lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI View Post
    I found it highly coincidental that they stopped using it when they did.

    I believe she did say that, but I don't recall whether it was in her book or whether it was from an interview.

    It was also true their quad looked a lot better when she was littler and lighter.
    Did they ever attempt it after the 1986-87 season? That's the only year I know of when they did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floskate View Post
    Did they ever attempt it after the 1986-87 season? That's the only year I know of when they did it.
    Don't think so. AFAIK, Gordeeva & Grinkov attempted the quad twist 3 times in international competition in 1986-87 -- in the free skates at 1986 Skate Canada, 1987 Europeans, and 1987 Worlds.

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