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    iwasn't planning on it.
    but there is too much implications in this for it to be held.

    why they thought of the tour earlier, sure why didn't go through with it.

    according to articles--read --only doing it for korean people due to yuna day
    implications there.

    if she wanted to do the show -they managment company could have stated doing show in la on october 2nd for her popularity and outreach to american public--not just doing show for Yu-na Day in L.a--to much implications

    also if Yu-na wants to become U.s spokesperson she has to [put up with good, bad and ugly with the american people in u.s

    how some american people think and reach to different situations and announcments and honors is different than korean

    also yu-na isn't american citizen-so who knows how will react.
    the american public took some time to get use to katarina she skated 8 years competitively and than did it and there was still some backlash,
    katia was kinda spared due to her situation, sonja had to wait 10 years.
    yu-na seems nice, kinda a smug at time. she is doing the right things, but do we really know her no.
    how the american public treats yu-na will be different than how they treat the other american athletes.
    yu-na entered the political arena aspect of it , when she okayed and got yu-na day-yes it is an honor for her, however they is a price to it.
    what kind depends on how yu-na, agency handles it.
    the american people do know the difference between favoring and getting things for their american athletes versus non-american.
    we like other countries atheles yes-but not over our own.

    sorry to be a killjoy-but reality bites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    how some american people think and reach to different situations and announcments and honors is different than korean
    This American likes both Yu-Na and Michelle, and likes to approach things with logic and an open mind. Many others across the world, Koreans included, do too.

    Unfortunately, with all due respect, your posts are exceptionally incomprehensible.

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    query5: I have no idea what you are complaining/concerned about nor in what way you think that Yu-na has designs on becoming a "U.S. spokesperson". Your posts in this thread don't make much sense at all, I'm afraid.

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    i wasn't expeciting most skating fans, to like or understand what i am saying.
    i apprecate and like all you reasons and ideas even yours umbs go blue.
    your opinons are noted and appreciate.

    not everyone likes or will approve of what happens and in someways might react like not going to show or letting other people know.

    yu-na show probably won't do anything here in us but be a show.
    however as far as marketablity in the U.s for her--who knows.

    some american people read into alot of things, and we prefer our athletes to get the "city days" over other countries athletes and we let people know it.
    what kind of impact from here on it who knows.

    yu-na is a lovely girl.

    her show might be a big boost, but who knows. i don't know
    should us skaters skate on show probably wouldn't hurt but help.
    but i don't know.
    probably be forgotten by april, but election time is coming up in november who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    i wasn't expeciting most skating fans, to like or understand what i am saying.
    i apprecate and like all you reasons and ideas even yours umbs go blue.
    your opinons are noted and appreciate.

    not everyone likes or will approve of what happens and in someways might react like not going to show or letting other people know.

    yu-na show probably won't do anything here in us but be a show.
    however as far as marketablity in the U.s for her--who knows.

    some american people read into alot of things, and we prefer our athletes to get the "city days" over other countries athletes and we let people know it.
    what kind of impact from here on it who knows.

    yu-na is a lovely girl.

    her show might be a big boost, but who knows. i don't know
    should us skaters skate on show probably wouldn't hurt but help.
    but i don't know.
    probably be forgotten by april, but election time is coming up in november who knows.
    I have no idea what it is you're trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post

    sorry to be a killjoy


    The news about Yu-Na's L.A. show is wonderful ...

    "Buzzkill" would be another good word for your incoherent (and negative?) remarks....




    P.S. Thank you to FSU folks who keep an eye out for information on shows and sharing it...
    Last edited by geod2; 08-10-2010 at 11:47 PM.

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    You can only be a "killjoy" if people take you seriously.

    I think Yu-na planning a U.S. show is absolutely delightful and I know she will do very well here. Quality skating is always welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    actually i hope michelle doesn't skate in the show . why for a couple of reasons
    which were pointed out in the korea newspapers and by yu-na's management agency.

    1) it implies that the only reason yu-na is doing the show is FOR KOREAN people only--no one else (no other group) -she got the Yu-na day in Los Angeles for the Korean people--no other group. SO does that exclude the other groups of people.

    3) it is political--would have Yu-na did the show in the U.s. without the Yu-na Day-which implies the person who brought is up (councilman might be up for office this november so he might have put her name in so he can be reelected.

    Personally i find that show start has a political beginning that might her yu-na as well as other skaters who skate on the show.

    yes it is only a show-but would have yu-na did it without the yu-na day, they are impling that the Only reason they did is because of Yu-na day for the Korean people- (to much inbetween not said-or hasl got american people thinking what our government really says about american born athletes versus non-american. it goes beyond about a skating show.
    The beginning of the show is not due to the Yu-Na Day.
    http://www.blazingblades.com/7313019...-angeles-gala/
    The announcement made by Kim confirms her earlier pre-Olympic promise to hold a gala in LA within the year.
    And the show is not just for Korean people only.
    I don't know how well do you understand Korean language but try the article below or just read what I quoted.
    http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?...aid=0003378930
    또 올댓스포츠는 "김연아가 참여하는 첫 해외 아이스쇼의 장소를 LA로 택하게 된 것은 스포츠와 김연아에 대한 LA 시민들의 높은 관심 때문이다"라고 말했다.
    ATS said "Because a citizen of L.A. has high interest both on figure skating and Yu-Na Kim, we chose LA for our first ice show in foreign soil."
    And "Yu-na day in Los Angeles" sold tickets in advance to everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    2) it is all about yu-na (which is no skating) i think. it is a show for yu-na about yu-na -which implies to see how well she sells in the U.S>
    I'd been to her show every-time everywhere for 4 years. Which of the shows were all for her and all about her?

    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    4) michelle if she skates might received a backlash as well as any american skater in the show due to the political impact that started it and the impressions that American people got, thought regarding her (honorary L.A. citizenship over american athletes)-whether there will be one or not, i don't know but what people are really thinking regarding this is leaving a bad taste in some American people mouths. so personally to be safe is not to skate in her show.
    Are you talking about Politics to whom graduated with a bachelor's degree in international studies and a minor in political science and began graduate studies in international relations at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University? It might be better for you to skate instead of M.K.

    As always, you may say "I have my own opinion blah blah... " but do NOT distort the facts.

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    Seeing as how skating has become somewhat of a fringe sport in the U.S., it's great that a champion skater like Yuna wants to revive public interest here again by introducing well-produced ice shows. I only see positives for shows like ATS, unlike the kind of shows Johnny jokingly (one can hope) had in mind with strippers and porn stars; I like JW but just not the combo of strippers and porn stars on ice.

    I live in L.A. and this is as good of a place as any to launch a different brand of ice shows, especially if Yuna's team promotes it well enough to generate buzz among the entertainment industry set over here. Who knows, hopefully it may lead to shows being televised nationally again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portia View Post
    Seeing as how skating has become somewhat of a fringe sport in the U.S., it's great that a champion skater like Yuna wants to revive public interest here again by introducing well-produced ice shows. I only see positives for shows like ATS, unlike the kind of shows Johnny jokingly (one can hope) had in mind with strippers and porn stars; I like JW but just not the combo of strippers and porn stars on ice.

    I live in L.A. and this is as good of a place as any to launch a different brand of ice shows, especially if Yuna's team promotes it well enough to generate buzz among the entertainment industry set over here. Who knows, hopefully it may lead to shows being televised nationally again.

    Judging by the content on network television/cable, JW was (jokingly) just trying to dumb it down to what has sadly become the our cultural norm (it often seems).

    I lived in L.A. most of my life and Yu-Na's show may be my one chance to see a skating show this Fall ....Disson left the West Coast out in the cold this year if I've read all the schedules right.
    I just hope that there isn't some other big sports or entertainment event in L.A. competing with Yu-Na's that night, not that it'll stop me from going.


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    I just hope that there isn't some other big sports or entertainment event in L.A. competing with Yu-Na's that night, not that it'll stop me from going.
    Well, luckily October isn't awards season in L.A., and skating would do well to be promoted as counter-programming to autumn sporting events like baseball playoffs and football. There is an untapped market here for quality, fun skating shows....if only promoters knew how to put them on and promote them, *sighs*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portia View Post
    Well, luckily October isn't awards season in L.A., and skating would do well to be promoted as counter-programming to autumn sporting events like baseball playoffs and football. There is an untapped market here for quality, fun skating shows....if only promoters knew how to put them on and promote them, *sighs*.
    Although Yu-Na herself will have no problem drawing a crowd in L.A., IMHO,
    if MK skates in this, much of the remaining marketing and promotion for the event will take of itself simply by her being included.

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    I hope it's a big draw and a big deal so we can get more events like this in the US, though man, it would cost so much money to put on a show like this at Staples! I seem to remember, though, that last year's Worlds had a fantastic attendance record. It was pretty darn packed when I was at a few events.

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't follow query5's reasoning.

    I hope the show is wildly successful and that it heralds the resurgence of big skating shows in the US again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by query5 View Post
    actually i hope michelle doesn't skate in the show . why for a couple of reasons
    which were pointed out in the korea newspapers and by yu-na's management agency.

    1) it implies that the only reason yu-na is doing the show is FOR KOREAN people only--no one else (no other group) -she got the Yu-na day in Los Angeles for the Korean people--no other group. SO does that exclude the other groups of people.

    2) it is all about yu-na (which is no skating) i think. it is a show for yu-na about yu-na -which implies to see how well she sells in the U.S>

    3) it is political--would have Yu-na did the show in the U.s. without the Yu-na Day-which implies the person who brought is up (councilman might be up for office this november so he might have put her name in so he can be reelected.

    4) michelle if she skates might received a backlash as well as any american skater in the show due to the political impact that started it and the impressions that American people got, thought regarding her (honorary L.A. citizenship over american athletes)-whether there will be one or not, i don't know but what people are really thinking regarding this is leaving a bad taste in some American people mouths. so personally to be safe is not to skate in her show.

    Personally i find that show start has a political beginning that might her yu-na as well as other skaters who skate on the show.

    yes it is only a show-but would have yu-na did it without the yu-na day, they are impling that the Only reason they did is because of Yu-na day for the Korean people- (to much inbetween not said-or hasl got american people thinking what our government really says about american born athletes versus non-american. it goes beyond about a skating show.
    Very interesting. Are you sure you are not fairly4 from Goldenskate? (I presume is a Japanese American?)

    For some reason your attitude towards this Yuna show in the US reminded me of this joke (So Un-Pc it is so PC).

    At an International School, a conversation heard from a classroom

    Stand inTeacher:
    "For today, let's have an open minded discussion expressing your own opinions on food shortages experienced by other countries"

    African Student: "There are food??"
    European Student: "There are shortages??"
    American Student: "There are other countries??"
    Chinese student: "What is expressing own opinion??"
    Japanese student: "What is open minded??"
    Korean: "I will try my very hardest, but can you show me how first??"

    ^-^

    Sorry if it offends anyone (it probably does to everyone), but to quote your saying 'reality bites' - I am bitten by it every day! But I also laugh with it every day

    Apologies to the forum for make this my first post on FSU but I simply couldn't resist.

    Personally, I can't think of a better city in the US to put up an ice skating extravaganza of this magnitude. US is far more inclusive of successful foreigners than the media makes out (despite the last administration's efforts). It is the land of immigrants, particularly in LA (liberal mindset) Yuna would be right at home with her Korean supporters and the arts inclined population who's always looking for the latest trends, good times or general excellence that Yuna has came to exemplify during the Olympics.

    LA would also have the right expertise and experience to put up this type of rock concert extravaganza that could even improve upon the original version. (There are better live singers for starters)

    I would be interested to know if Yuna's going to sing and speak in English for the entire duration of this show, then you can speak about how Korean the show really is.
    Last edited by os168; 08-11-2010 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbk View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't follow query5's reasoning.

    I hope the show is wildly successful and that it heralds the resurgence of big skating shows in the US again.
    This!

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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Very interesting. Are you sure you are not fairly4 from Goldenskate? (I presume is a Japanese American?)

    For some reason your attitude towards this Yuna show in the US reminded me of this joke (So Un-Pc it is so PC).

    At an International School, a conversation heard from a classroom

    Stand inTeacher:
    "For today, let's have an open minded discussion expressing your own opinions on food shortages experienced by other countries"

    African Student: "There are food??"
    European Student: "There are shortages??"
    American Student: "There are other countries??"
    Chinese student: "What is expressing own opinion??"
    Japanese student: "What is open minded??"
    Korean: "I will try my very hardest, but can you show me how first??"

    ^-^

    Sorry if it offends anyone (it probably does to everyone), but to quote your saying 'reality bites' - I am bitten by it every day! But I also laugh with it every day

    Apologies to the forum for make this my first post on FSU but I simply couldn't resist.

    Personally, I can't think of a better city in the US to put up an ice skating extravaganza of this magnitude. US is far more inclusive of successful foreigners than the media makes out (despite the last administration's efforts). It is the land of immigrants, particularly in LA (liberal mindset) Yuna would be right at home with her Korean supporters and the arts inclined population who's always looking for the latest trends, good times or general excellence that Yuna has came to exemplify during the Olympics.

    LA would also have the right expertise and experience to put up this type of rock concert extravaganza that could even improve upon the original version. (There are better live singers for starters)

    I would be interested to know if Yuna's going to sing and speak in English for the entire duration of this show, then you can speak about how Korean the show really is.
    And why are you assuming that Query5/Fairly5 is Japanese American?

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    Maybe people are giving way too much attention to Query5's nonsensical post than it deserves?

    I wish I could see Ms. Yamaguchi skate live at the show. When was her last skating performance?

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    4) michelle if she skates might received a backlash as well as any american skater in the show due to the political impact that started it and the impressions that American people got,
    Are you serious? If Michelle were to skate in it Yu-na would be adored all over for just getting Michelle to skate in the US again.

    what kind depends on how yu-na, agency handles it.
    the american people do know the difference between favoring and getting things for their american athletes versus non-american.
    we like other countries atheles yes-but not over our own.
    Americans happily in the past have embraced foreign athletes. Olga Korbut was adored in the US, did all kinds of tours, even met the President. And here's a little fact, by having a show here in the United States and employing American skaters, Yu-na is actually helping American skaters People like Tanith and Ben can't necessarily afford to set up their own shows. Yu-na's shows in Korea have offered a lot of skaters the opportunity to make some needed money. Now she's allowing us Americans to get to see some of these great shows, while employing our skaters. Yes it would be so much more supportive for our American athletes if they didn't have Yu-na's shows to skate in.
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