I know the transititions, footwork and ugly spin positions are quite a bit more difficult in 2010, but it is kind of sad that we can even debate that BB could have won gold over 20 years later. I think the jump conent between EL's 2010 program and BB's 1988 program are almost identical.
If Boitano were to tweak his program to suit COP it probably would have been. Then again I am not sure if things like overly complex spins with multiple position changes, overly complex footwork, or overly complex choreography were exactly his thing or not. Evan is comfortable doing all those things. Still in terms of sheer quality and perfection of jumping, skating, and everything else he beats Lysacek hands down on everything IMHO and the jump content is virtually the same.
Boitano's spins were average at best. Not only would his 1988 spins be inadequate in 2010 (in both quality and difficulty) it is also very unlikely that he would be able to COP-whore his spins. Plushenko couldn't and he was a better spinner than Boitano.
Urmanov, Kulik, Pliuta, VDP, Lysacek, Yuna Kim... just to name a few.And Boitano is a much stronger jumper than Kwan ever was. He probably has the best triple lutz and triple flip EVER for a man. I cant think of anyone who does those jumps better.
But that's not the point. Ito was a better jump than Yamaguchi but Yamaguchi landed 3 3lutzes in Albertville but Ito landed none.
Plushenko was clearly past his prime in Vancouver, and still would have won if he had landed 1 of about 5 off jumps a bit better, or tweaked one minor thing about his jump layout. His spins in 2006 were good enough to allow him to win the Olympics by about 30 points, despite that they werent the best. And Plushenko is absolutely not a better spinner than Boitano IMO.
A moot point since he outjumped everyone by about 53 miles. It was obviously NOT his spins that won him the Olympics. (what were you watching?)His spins in 2006 were good enough to allow him to win the Olympics by about 30 points, despite that they werent the best.
He was never able to hold his positions or carry enough speed in combinations. Plushenko was clearly a faster and more centered spinner.And Plushenko is absolutely not a better spinner than Boitano IMO.
Every one but 2002 is right.
Boitano would definitely have won Olympic gold in 1992, matching Dick Button's two Olympic gold wins. In 1992, Boitano was the best male figure skater on the planet (after turning professional he had maintained his technical skills and continued to grow artistically), but he couldn't compete at 1992 Olympics because he was ineligible. Boitano was largely responsible for the move to reinstate ineligible skaters which allowed him and other previously ineligible skaters to compete at the 1994 Olympics. Yes, Boitano did actually compete at the Olympic games in 1994, and he finished in 6th place (because he had not fully recovered from nagging injuries and he fell in the short program, which took him out of running for the gold medal). If he had been at full strength in 1994, yes I think he could have won gold again, but let's face it by 1994, others were younger and stronger and his best shot at winning Olympic gold again was in 1992 when he had to sit out. The great thing about Brian is that even though he couldn't compete in 1992, he fully supported his former teammates, and was very happy for Wylie's great success.
Boitano wasnt as strong an amateur skater by 94 as what he was in 88. He couldnt even do all the triples anymore (no triple loop), he had a hard time with the 2nd triple axel and doing a triple-triple combination, and his skating was just different overall. He was an amazing pro skater at that point of course, nearly unbeatable. I never expected him to win the 94 Olympics or neccessarily even medal, though the competition turned out much poorer than expected especialy with Browning and Petrenko (and Boitano and Davis) not skating that well so his chances would have been better than I thought pre Games.
I agree he would have had a great shot in 92, it was too bad he didnt stay for 92 instead of coming back for 94 in a way.
The interesting year is definitely 2010. If we are to force Boitano into COP rather than forcing Lysacek into 6.0 and doing figures (where Boitano pounds Lysacek to a pulp and Orser and Petrenko probably also finish ahead of him, even giving Evan quite a while to learn figures), the question for me is how would you change Boitano's program so he scores best:
Boitano's SP Olympics
Boitano's 1988 LP Olympics
Boitano's slightly 2 footed quad toe at US Nationals in 1987
And Boitano's 1986 LP
Coming into the LP, I think Boitano is close to Plushenko & Lysacek. Boitano has done 3F3T, 3A and his trademark 3Lz with the arm over the head out of the F/w in the SP.
In 2010, what could a fictional Boitano have done to amp up his score in the LP, using stuff he knew how to do in 1988
I'm going to leave the 4/4 jump layout he had in 1988.
3lz with arm overhead with great runout
3A2LP from his short program
3F, but with arm overhead as he did the 2F in the SP
walley into 3T2t2Lp from his 1986 LP
after the 2 minute mark (as it was in Calgary), something that is often not mentioned:
second triple axel
3Lp into spiral
And instead of 2A, 3T with arms crossed into a lunge with his sword, as in first half of program. If he has the energy, he could do the 3T2T2lp here and move the single 3T back to it's original position.
All those jumps were high quality and much better than Lysacek's.
So the question is how much he loses in the spins and F/w. I think he definitely medals-and his jumps are so much better than Lysacek's that maybe he wins.