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    Well, that was anti-climactic. The absence of Alex (or even any mention of him??) until decision time meant that his injury was too severe for him to continue, so I didn't stress at all about Billy and Ashley being in the B3. No surprise that Jose and Adechike weren't in the B3, either. They've both been popular since the beginning, and if there was any chance of Adechike being in the B3 this week, Mia torpedoed it. The only surprise of the night was that Robert wasn't in the B3.

    Nice half-assed apology from Mia. Gotta love the "I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way" style that puts the blame back on other people I don't even think she needed to apologize for how harsh her comments were to Adechike, but she should have admitted that it was unprofessional and inappropriate for her to invoke The Wonder of Alex during Adechike's critique. Of course then she'd have to go back and apologize for her comment to Melinda last week, too. I wonder if Nigel made her apologize...he disagreed with her pretty strongly last night. And they're probably all annoyed that it backfired.

    Anya/Pasha dance !

    Billy's solo was great...Ashley looked like she gave up in the middle of hers. I think she's a strong dancer, but if this was a regular elimination she would have deserved to go based on that solo. of course, I can't see the judges leaving us with only 1 girl and 5 guys.

    Natasha Bedingfield Glad she went back to lip synching...she sang live on that glee club competition in the winter and it was embarrassing to hear. Aw, I do like that Cat is so excited to see her friend though. She can't be that bad a person if Cat likes her!

    I felt terrible for Alex having to stand in front of everyone during the announcement about his injury - at least he didn't have to do most of the talking, although Cat shoving a mic in his face saying "how do you feel about this?" wasn't her finest moment. Poor guy...I really hope he has a speedy (but not too speedy) and full recovery. Even if he doesn't do the competition again next year, I hope they bring him back to perform.

    ps Cat needs an Emmy.
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    Alex
    I won't watch that season anymore. He was the heart of it
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    I think Alex did indeed raise the bar. There have only been a handful of dancers throughout the seasons whom I thought to be really and truly professionally superior. Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think there are probably quite a few other dancers out there who are on a level with Alex who might now be encouraged to be on this show. There's been an awful lot of the "competitiony" dancer look for years. Yes-there have been exceptions and some wonderful artists-but not overall.

    Alex is not alone out there in the dance world. There's more of him, and now maybe we'll start to see them, and the quality will just keep getting better and better.

    I for one think Billy is just being robbed. I understand his lack of partner relationship skills....but he is an extraordinary dancer with very unique physical gifts. But he's a kind of quirky personality who isn't a young teen heartthrob, and he isn't overly handsome, though I think he's very sweet looking. But it's his artistic gifts that count to me. Seeing him in the bottom 3 just breaks my heart. Ashley didn't deserve to be there either.

    It's all a function of personality and demographics, and we all know this from having our hearts broken year after year. The primary voter is probably 14 and under the spell of Jose's adorable face and Kent's shucks-ma'm demeanor. That's fine-it's a popularity contest. But you do see that when someone really superior comes along-it cuts through all the tween and teen stuff. Alex would have won this year-I'd bet anything on it. I'm just hoping his participation encourages other fabulous dancers to try out next year.

    Come back Anthony!!

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    Come back Alex !! I think we are robbed of everything he could have done here.

    Do you think they'll make him come back ??
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    I just had an idea! Wouldn't it be cool to have a dance competition during the summer (SYTYCD could alter their rules) and have professional companies send their young pre-company or soloists to battle it out? The dance companies get recognition and press, and we get to see fantastic dancers. Not just ballet companies, but contemporary companies, hip-hop and street crews, modern companies, jazz companies, etc. There are some hungry young company dancers out there having to pay their dues...this would give them an outlet to show their stuff nationally.

    It'll never happen, but I can dream.

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    Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think there are probably quite a few other dancers out there who are on a level with Alex who might now be encouraged to be on this show.
    If I was a professional dancer- I'd stay far away from this show. Alex suffered what could be a career ending injury. There is a lot of speculation that it is because of the need to dance two very very different dances without the proper time to warm up the specific muscles needed for each in between them.

    Many other dancers on the show have had semi-serious injuries too (though probably nothing more than what a professional has also had to deal with.)

    Yes- I know that Hongbo Zhao suffered the same injury and came back- apparently with a modified boot. Since he's a pairs skater and not an ice dancer, he doesn't need the same level of foot articulation Alex dances barefoot and needs a full range of motion- for a perfect pointed toe to an over flexed foot. He could easily be out for good if the surgery does not go well. (However an experienced ballet teacher on one of the pre-professional ballet boards I read suggests that with a few months of PT he could be back into ballet classes in a few months)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holley Calmes View Post
    Come back Anthony!!
    But that will just set us up for a repeat of this season's dilemma which seems to have impacted Billy. I lurve me some Anthony, but not against Alex if he decides to return.
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    I think they already told Alex he can come back, which is great. However, I do think it would

    1) leave other contestants at a gigantic disadvantage since Alex has been building support for 2 seasons now, especially after leaving on a tragic note right after having creating the high point of the whole season.

    2) there will be enormous pressure on Alex himself to meet the lofty expectations.

    But I just want him to fully heal and be able to be the great dancer that he is, then we'll see what happens next.

    For the rest of this season, Billy seems to be stepping up his game at just the right time. I'm still hoping the B3 results was just the result of Mia-nipulation gone madly awry.
    I'd be ok with a Billy or Lauren win. A Kent or Jose win would make me cringe.
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    Many others here have summarized what I feel about/for Alex.
    I'll be praying that Tuesday's surgery goes as well as possible; and that his recovery/rehabilitation will allow him to dance again.
    His devastation was obvious. I ache for him.

    Perhaps this will light a fire under Billy. How awful for it to happen this way.

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    Despite being devastated, I am delighted we got to see the dance with Alex and Twitch before he injured himself. I wished they'd replayed it tonight instead of all the crappy filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holley Calmes View Post
    Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think there are probably quite a few other dancers out there who are on a level with Alex who might now be encouraged to be on this show.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skittl1321 View Post
    If I was a professional dancer- I'd stay far away from this show. Alex suffered what could be a career ending injury.
    I agree with Skittl1321. I think truly professional contemporary/ballet dancers haven't, on the whole, been on the show because they're already working. Why take the time out for something that might come to nothing? Or, I think some have auditioned and not made it to the top 10 (and maybe not gotten air time during auditions) because they are too mature (in demeanor, not necessarily age) or not deemed tv-friendly. I thought Danny would have brought more pros to the show, but that didn't really happen - possibly because of the "arrogant" treatment he got. Alex may have encouraged other pros to give it a shot - but after that injury? No way.

    I do agree that there has been a very 'competition-y' feel to many of the dancers, but my guess is that those are the dancers who are well-rounded and most tv-ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCirque View Post
    I can't tell you how many times I've heard an exchange like that in rehearsals, in class, or in general conversation, both directed at me and other dancers. ... It's a normal occurrence and statement to me.
    Well, Mia apologized, but stood her ground. It stuck me as harsh, but entirely normal in the dance world because I was used to that kind of harsh comment too. Dancers were screamed at, told they were fat, lazy, stupid, told they were hurting the teachers eyes, all in front of lots of other students and sometimes parents. They would have done the same thing on national television. Sometimes we would show up for pointe class and our teacher would tell the 3-4 superstars who had Sylvie Guillem legs and feet to stay - she'd send the rest of us to pirouettes class with another teacher. She'd flat out say she only wanted to see the best of the best that day. Not to mention newspaper reviews which can be scathing and not in the least constructive. Rude, sure, but very normal.
    I think I will have a snack and take a nap before I eat and go to sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genevieve View Post
    I think truly professional contemporary/ballet dancers haven't, on the whole, been on the show because they're already working. Why take the time out for something that might come to nothing? Or, I think some have auditioned and not made it to the top 10 (and maybe not gotten air time during auditions) because they are too mature (in demeanor, not necessarily age) or not deemed tv-friendly. I thought Danny would have brought more pros to the show, but that didn't really happen - possibly because of the "arrogant" treatment he got. Alex may have encouraged other pros to give it a shot - but after that injury? No way. .
    There have been a few dancers before Alex with considerable professional credentials -- Danny, Anya, Pasha -- but he seems to be the most successful on the show to date. Anya and Pasha largely earned their livings by teaching. The show gave them more opportunities to perform for pay. There are real risks of injury, like torn ACLs and other knee damage. Why give up a good paying professional dance job, like Alex had, to potentially end your entire dance career? I got the impression Melissa had not had steady employment like Alex. This is a show for the Ades of the world, talented young dancers looking to make a name for themselves.

    With Alex gone, I don't really care who wins, just as long as it's not Jose. He kind of sucks. I don't even mind if Kent wins, because he's a decent dancer. Just young and silly. Don't get the Lauren love, but she's okay. Is this season over yet? It terms of genuine interest, it is for me.

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    Alex wanted to try something different and stretch himself. I really don't understand why so many people don't understand why he's doing this. Lots of people, no matter what the profession, want a change, to find out how far they can go, try something new, just to see if they can do it. Just because someone has steady, stable work doesn't mean they need to stay in that steady, stable work. I think it's great that he wanted to do something new, no matter the risk. It's his attitude that means he'll likely be successful to some degree, in whatever he decides to do. He accepts challenges and the risks that go with them. Good for him - it'll take him far.

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    Gutted for Alex. I will still watch, but the show just lost a lot for me. But didn't gymnast Courtney Kupets rupture her achilles twice - the first time she returned to compete in the Olympics within a year and the second she won multiple NCAA titles around year later. So one can hope Alex's will go as well. It is going to depend on how his tendon was before this - if he's had chronic tendonitis and cortisone shots, it could get more complicated. I think that gymnast Ivan Ivankov had to have his achilles reconstructed using tendons and muscle from other parts of his body because his ankle was mush from all the cortisone. But he came back and won World AA in less than a year. Alex is young so there is hope.
    I think I will have a snack and take a nap before I eat and go to sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matryeshka View Post
    I don't know, LC. It was Adechike as the big angel in the center. I kinda like Lauren's get-up. At least it's not a highly-unflattering baby doll dress.

    The big angel in the middle was All Star Ade, who I assumed to be filling in for Alex. After second watch, what I got out of it was a non-literal interpretation of Mia's mother being met by her father and other angels inside the gates of heaven.
    I think I will have a snack and take a nap before I eat and go to sleep.

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    I am not interested in the show as much now either. Alex made the show for me. I will still watch for the all -stars because I am hoping Mark performs again, but I don't care who wins this year to be frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    It stuck me as harsh, but entirely normal in the dance world because I was used to that kind of harsh comment too. Dancers were screamed at, told they were fat, lazy, stupid, told they were hurting the teachers eyes, all in front of lots of other students and sometimes parents. They would have done the same thing on national television. ... Rude, sure, but very normal.
    I don't think the problem is that she was rude and harsh, but that she was disproportionally harsh to one contestant on national TV for no good reason. If all the judges have been screaming at all contestants for being fat, lazy, stupid, horrible, incompetent, it would not have caught so much attention. However, they have been very pleasant and supportive to all other contestants except in this instance.

    This is why her comments on Wednesday stuck out like a sore thumb. It was not fair or warranted, and strangely disproportionate. Compare this behavior with Nigel going out of his way to practically beg/instruct the audience to vote for Robert, despite his obvious lack of expressiveness and mediocre technique. It was quite shocking --- for me at least.

    Adechike has not got along with the judges since the qualifying rounds. Perhaps he is combative with them and has not shown enough deference. Perhaps he gets on their nerves. But their critiques do not make sense if viewed in context of their critiques to other contestants. I'm not an Adechike fan, but I find the whole thing a bit disturbing. The judges are not winning my respect.
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    Most dance companies have seasons that don't include summer. A few of the biggies have seasons that run into summer, but most don't. Most dance companies can't afford to pay dancers year round. I believe Alex tried to be on the show when they went with a Fall "season" and Miami Ballet was up and running at that time. Hence the contract problem. I know for a fact that many, many dancers are free right now-usually up until late August/September, because one of our alumni, Robert Dekkers, just premiered his own new contemporary company Post: Ballet in San Francisco. It's called Post:Ballet because he hires dancers who are on hiatus for the summer, and this company is a "summer company." My husband also tries to photograph people when they are on summer hiatus because they aren't under restrictive contracts and are free to free-lance.

    I know-if there's a tour, it would eat into company season time. I know...I know. I just want to see better dancers, and this year's crop is I think better in many individuals.....I just want to keep it going.

    Post:Ballet is previewed on page 18 of this month's Dance Magazine. Here's the web site. I think all you dance folks will enjoy the photographs-my husband didn't do them, but they're still great!

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    Well, Mia has always been known to be tough on those when she feels they are dancing poorly or not as well as they can. This isn't anything new for her.

    I do think their critiques and reviews match his dancing and performances. One of the few times this has happened.

    Plus I consider Robert to be a stronger technical and more expressive dancer than Adechike.

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