Results 1 to 18 of 18
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Partying with Oda
    Posts
    4,141
    vCash
    699
    Rep Power
    18162

    Caucasian Japanese?

    Okay, I think this Ken Tanaka guy might not be for real:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG5sqVE2J5I

    Whether he is or not, I have a question, especially for any Japanese FSUers out there. Are there caucasians who are raised as Japanese? Also, are these guys on the video speaking well?

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    11
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    David's Japanese is flawless -no "foreign" accent. I do know that the Swiss skater, Lucinda Ruh, grew up in Japan, was coached by Nobuo Sato (Yuka's dad), and speaks Japanese. If I remember correctly, she has even said that she considers Japanese to be her native language.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Singleville aka 7th Circle of Hell
    Age
    34
    Posts
    12,347
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    6160
    I'm sorry, but that's just silly. There are plenty of Americans of Asian descent who only speak English (and maybe high school Spanish or French ), so why wouldn't there be Japanese of European descent who only speak Japanese? It might not be as common, but there's no doubt in my mind it happens.
    "The practice of sport is a human right. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play." –Olympic Charter

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Partying with Oda
    Posts
    4,141
    vCash
    699
    Rep Power
    18162
    Quote Originally Posted by Matryeshka View Post
    I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
    I'm sorry you consider my question "silly." I asked it because I did not know the answer.

    Asians raised in English-speaking countries is common. I've not heard of Caucasians raised as Japanese. I've often wondered about it and I think it's an interesting topic.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    5,258
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    6157
    Quote Originally Posted by Matryeshka View Post
    I'm sorry, but that's just silly. There are plenty of Americans of Asian descent who only speak English (and maybe high school Spanish or French ), so why wouldn't there be Japanese of European descent who only speak Japanese? It might not be as common, but there's no doubt in my mind it happens.
    It's actually not a silly question considering Japan's traditional immigration policies. If the question had been, "Do Caucasians who grow up in Japan and attend Japanese schools speak Japanese?" then it would have been silly. But traditionally Japan has had tough immigration policies, and immigrant communities have sometimes been isolated and refused Japanese citizenship and were not allowed to attend Japanese schools. North Korea's star soccer player, for example, was born and raised in Japan to North Korean parents. But he has been ineligible for Japanese citizenship and has been schooled in Korean, not Japanese.

    Furthermore, skateboy asked about Caucasians raised as Japanese in the sense of being adopted by Japanese parents, as that is Ken Tanaka's supposed background.

    Back to the original question.

    These days, not only are there quite a few Caucasians raised in Japan these days, but many Iranians as well, as there has been an Iranian immigration wave in the past decade.

    As someone mentioned, Lucinda Ruh speaks perfect Japanese, having spent most of her childhood there.

    The first American allowed onto the island after the Hiroshima bombing was a native Hiroshiman of Russian descent who had grown up on the island until his teens. During the 50th anniversary of the bombing, I saw him on TV recounting his experience of stepping back into his native town. He spoke English with a Japanese accent.

    Percentage-wise, they're still small, but especially in the big cities, you'll find them.

    ETA: I originally posted that Ken Tanaka had grown up in Japan, but it seems he actually didn't.
    Last edited by Gazpacho; 06-28-2010 at 07:00 AM.

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Sochi voids
    Age
    25
    Posts
    2,137
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    When I first heard his name, I thought "Glee."

    According to the L.A. Times, the guys name is David Ury, a man from Sonoma, California who spent several years in Japan. From what I get, Tanaka is a get-up, but the story behind both the character and the person are the same. Or, well, that's for us to decide.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr...nt/et-tanaka10
    Last edited by IceJunkie; 06-28-2010 at 06:50 AM.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    FSU Witness Protection Program
    Age
    26
    Posts
    27,952
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    12082
    Quote Originally Posted by IceJunkie View Post
    When I first heard his name, I thought "Glee."
    Oh God, me too. I thought this was going to be about the Glee character.
    Adelina Sotnikova is the 2014 Olympic champion!

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    9,492
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    1231
    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    Are there caucasians who are raised as Japanese?
    There are actually Slavs/Russians who have been living for several generations on the northern Island of Hokkaido, who are "born and raised" Japanese, just look "slavic". At one point in history Russia and Japan "shared" a number of Islands in the sea of Okhotsk, including Kuril Islands Archipelago, the islands were inhabited by both Russians and Japanese, and at the end of WWII portion of the islands remained in Russia and Hokkaido remained in Japan. Some Russians chose to stay on or relocate to the Japanese island.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands

    http://www.pref.hokkaido.lg.jp/sm/hrt/hp-en/hist-en.htm

  9. #9
    Bountifully Enmeshed
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    At the Christmas Bizarre
    Posts
    37,709
    vCash
    250
    Rep Power
    16217
    I had a student a couple of years ago who was a military brat. His mother was stationed in Japan when he was five or so, and she enrolled him in the local Japanese school instead of the American military school. I wouldn't say he was raised Japanese, exactly, but he speaks and writes the language flawlessly. Last year, I had a Japanese student who really struggled with English, so I called the other student and asked him to tutor the Japanese student. I thought the Japanese student was going to weep when he first heard my former student speak.

    The same student moved to Italy when he was 13 and his mother again enrolled him in the local school instead of the military school. He also speaks Italian very well, but with a slight funky accent all his own .

    His English sounds mostly like he's from Georgia but hasn't been there in a long time.

    My student did tell me that he was the only non-Japanese student at the school, and he always felt like something of a freak, but he's glad his parents ignored his whining and made him go to the local schools.
    Trolling dates all the way back to 397 B.C. - People began following Plato around and would make fart noises after everything he said.

  10. #10
    Corgi Wrangler
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Not Wearing Enough Sparkles
    Posts
    6,346
    vCash
    510
    Rep Power
    2366
    I was wondering if it was about the Ainu, but though they tend to have lighter hair and eyes and physical features similar to Caucasoid peoples genetic testing has shown they're Mongoloid after all.

  11. #11
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Main floor
    Posts
    2,429
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by danceronice View Post
    I was wondering if it was about the Ainu, but though they tend to have lighter hair and eyes and physical features similar to Caucasoid peoples genetic testing has shown they're Mongoloid after all.
    I think you mean 'Mongolian' ; 'Mongoloid' refers to someone who has Down's Syndrome and is mentally handicapped.

  12. #12
    Bountifully Enmeshed
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    At the Christmas Bizarre
    Posts
    37,709
    vCash
    250
    Rep Power
    16217
    Quote Originally Posted by Jot the Dot Dot View Post
    I think you mean 'Mongolian' ; 'Mongoloid' refers to someone who has Down's Syndrome and is mentally handicapped.
    No, she means Mongoloid. Mongolian refers to the people of Mongolia, which is related but not the same thing.
    Trolling dates all the way back to 397 B.C. - People began following Plato around and would make fart noises after everything he said.

  13. #13
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Sochi voids
    Age
    25
    Posts
    2,137
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    The terms "Mongoloid", "Caucasoid", "Negroid" etc are considered outdated by most anthropologists. Even still, people generally get what you're referring to. I think now we're realizing that there are no set distinct races, and that its more a gradient.

  14. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Rejecting your reality and substituting my own
    Age
    30
    Posts
    10,875
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    When I was in Taiwan a while back, we turned on the news (in Mandarin Chinese, of course) and heard a voiceover of some news report. The camera panned out and it was a Caucasian reporter! His Chinese was flawless! Even my mom (a native) was jealous, because his accent was better than hers, not to mention she still doesn't know a lot of Chinese phrases when it comes to news or politics or science.

  15. #15

    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Posts
    1,965
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    0
    There's a football player who is Caucasian but was adopted by Japanese parents. I think his name is Scott Fujita.

  16. #16

    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    5,258
    vCash
    500
    Rep Power
    6157
    Quote Originally Posted by Yehudi View Post
    There's a football player who is Caucasian but was adopted by Japanese parents. I think his name is Scott Fujita.
    Scott Fujita is American. His birth parents are Caucasian, and his (adoptive) father is Japanese-American, while his (adoptive) mother is Caucasian.

  17. #17

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Partying with Oda
    Posts
    4,141
    vCash
    699
    Rep Power
    18162
    Thank you everyone, for all this information!

    Yes, Scott Fujita has a really interesting story. Caucasian, adopted by a Japanese father and Caucasian mother, raised in the states and honors many Japanese holidays and customs. He said when he was about eight, since he was raised on foods like octopus and rice, he didn't know what to do with a baked potato when it was served to him at a friend's house. As a kid, he used to introduce himself as Japanese.

  18. #18
    Prick Admin
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Having a kiki
    Posts
    41,882
    vCash
    506
    Rep Power
    12373
    Quote Originally Posted by skateboy View Post
    Thank you everyone, for all this information!

    Yes, Scott Fujita has a really interesting story. Caucasian, adopted by a Japanese father and Caucasian mother, raised in the states and honors many Japanese holidays and customs. He said when he was about eight, since he was raised on foods like octopus and rice, he didn't know what to do with a baked potato when it was served to him at a friend's house. As a kid, he used to introduce himself as Japanese.
    Japanese people do eat baked potatoes as well. It's quite a common dish on izakaya (pub-style restaurants) menus.
    To think that fun is simple fun, while earnest things are earnest, proves all too plain that neither one thou truthfully discernest.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •