Gone crazy. Be back soon.
I had to read this article to figure out what a schism was, but this:
is pathetic. I can't imagine tolerating a facility that forced me to "accomodate an ice princess' schedule." LMAO. Absolutely hysterical. What world are these people living in?Figure skaters with ambitions, claim members of this “dissident group” — as directors call them — are favoured with all the ice time they need. Other are sidelined; forced to accommodate the preferred ice princesses’ schedule; stripped of a cherished coach who didn’t mesh with the new direction. Some parents allege their children have been insulted by coaching staff: called fat, or talentless.
I'm not part of the private club set, but I can imagine if I had a membership in a club that exclusive I'd have a hard time simply walking away over a shift in direction. The article is rather sensational, but I think the members have a point if what used to be a fun family center (for the extremely wealthy, anyway) is now repositioning itself as a training facility for elite athletes, especially if it's only in one area.
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Yeah...I just have a hard time relating to this story, because I've never heard of a country club that has a skating facility, nor can I imagine what it would be like to have that opportunity, but I hope they get everything worked out. If I was a paying member and got bumped for an ice princess, that would be infuriating. I also had a hard time understanding why they banned certain coaches?
Well I think it's sad that little girls have to protest, they're kicking out coaches, and members being shunned. Skating should be fun and not causing this much drama. There are more important things in life than getting that caught up in your kid's training - perspective please!
Ah the dramas of skating clubs. Happens everywhere.
The only ones who end up suffering are the skaters.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
The Glencoe was, like the Royal Glenora in Edmonton, one of the top skating clubs in the province at one time. The biggest difference at one time was that if a 'non-member' wanted to train at the Glencoe, it cost sometime like $10K just to get in the door (this from a parent of a skater in my town who moved to the Glencoe to train as part of a dance team). Getting into the Glenora was quite a bit cheaper up front. I have no idea what the fees were like once one got in the door.
The Calalta club has been growing for several years now. They have one sheet of ice at one of the public rinks in Calgary that was built for figure skating, and access to a second rink for things like test days and hosting competitions. It's much easier to get into Calalta than it is the Glencoe!
Ms. Weeks has a good reputation in skating circles in the province; it does not surprise me that her skaters would protest her dismissal. Good for them! I have to say though, it would be interesting to find out just how much 'extra' ice the 'princesses' were getting. Glencoe used to be very competitive; I can't imagine there was a ton of time for rec. skaters before. Did that change over the years as Calalta grew both in size and in reputation? Is someone now trying to bring a high level of competitive skating back to the Glencoe?
'Tis to ponder...
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How is the Glencoe Club different than some of the clubs in Toronto?
This might be speaking out of ignorance, but aren't places like the Granite Club or Toronto Cricket/Skating and Curling Club private clubs? They certainly seem to be geared more to catering to the elite athlete than to creating a fun place for the family.
I don't know if they are comparable, though. Do they just have ice sports, or do they have other facilities like the Glencoe?
Not sure if clubs are different in Canada than in the U.S., but I've never heard of a private club, or one that charges $10k to nonmembers. I've never heard of a club that you have to "get into." As far as I know, the clubs in the U.S., you pay your entry fee and that's it. Most clubs are probably around $100-$200 a year to join and anyone can join as long as they pay the fee. There's the rare club like Boston which requires over $1000 up front, and a few letters of recommendation from current members. That's the most difficult I've heard of to get into, but most clubs aren't like that at all.
10K seems cheap to join. Most private clubs in Toronto and Vancouver are $30K plus to join.
Anyway, this sounds like a bunch of nouveau riche oil & gas and i-banker wives who are turning into skating moms from hell.
Right, I get that it's a "country club" but I've never heard of one with an ice rink. Maybe they only have them in Canada. I also didn't understand why Calalta was a lot easier to "get into" - if Calalta is a public club, can't you just pay the fee and join?
Here are a couple that I know of:
(Dick Button used to represent this one)
As I mentioned, these only have ice in the winter and can't support competitive training without access to other ice elsewhere.
I don't know how many other such clubs there may be in the US or how they compare to Canadian clubs where winter sports are more central.
Hm, interesting. Well I hope they get it all worked out and get back to skating.
A number of the older skating clubs in the eastern US still have some remnants of the "country club" model. The Skating Club of Boston and Philadelphia SC&HS are probably the most expensive/exclusive, but e.g. at one point several years back I looked into a few other clubs in the New England area and they all had the same requirements about having sponsors submit your application to the club Board for approval, rather than being open to anyone who paid the dues. Broadmoor SC in Colorado does that too so it is not just an east-coast thing. The Detroit SC is very much a private club also but I have no idea how much it costs to join.
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I noticed that none of these rinks have boards - the ice surface goes right up to the wall.