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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    I must be incredibly cynical because there not one thing about Kincaid's work that is uplifting to me.
    What painting uplifts you?

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    Oh really, art is whatever people want is to be. Art, schmart, fart.....and all that.

    As for myself, I prefer to look at antiquities. I like art as is evidence of something historical. However, I can tolerate most European painting and anything that isn't modern. I hate modern art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    It's better to show a solution to the bleakness.
    But is art supposed to be all about solutions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    Isn't that where Shrek lives?

    Or Hansel & Grettal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefcake View Post
    Isn't that where Shrek lives?

    Or Hansel & Grettal?

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    For god's sake, art is art. It isn't "problem solving 101" or "Family Morals for $200, Alex". It's like ice dance, there are different styles for different tastes. Sure, there may be higher technical quality to some than others. But to demand other people to look at something classy or schmaltzy and to interpret it the same as you is totally and utterly arrogant. Some people find Kinkaide "uplifting", some find it total cheesy dreck. Both views are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    What painting uplifts you?
    Here are a couple.

    http://blogs.princeton.edu/wri152-3/...in-galette.jpg

    Going on the non-realist side, I've always felt uplifted by the work of Kandinsky, here's an example:

    http://pippastephens.files.wordpress.../kandinsky.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Art-----><-----Bleakness
    Love it!

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    I've already overdosed on C. S. Lewis references in another thread, but I feel compelled to bring him up yet again here. He must be haunting me today. One of my favorite works on the subject of the arts is his book An Experiment in Criticism. He explains how some people use art instead of actually experiencing it as a work of art, and why that view is so limiting. I find it really helpful. In fact, I once used it in an article to help explain what was wrong with Facing the Giants as a film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyliefan View Post
    I've already overdosed on C. S. Lewis references in another thread, but I feel compelled to bring him up yet again here. He must be haunting me today. One of my favorite works on the subject of the arts is his book An Experiment in Criticism. He explains how some people use art instead of actually experiencing it as a work of art, and why that view is so limiting. I find it really helpful. In fact, I once used it in an article to help explain what was wrong with Facing the Giants as a film.
    Oh there's so much more than just that wrong with Facing the Giants.

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    I know, but that's one of the major things.
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    DickButtonFan I think you should realise that:

    a) there is no single definition of art and it can be different things for different people

    b) people might have different goals and ideals in life

    I find being told what should I be striving for by you extremely offensive. My goals are completely different and in any case, as a gay person, I am excluded from your fairy tale picture of family life.

    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    It's better to show a solution to the bleakness.
    Sometimes there isn't a solution or the solution is not attainable. That's the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    Here are a couple.

    http://blogs.princeton.edu/wri152-3/...in-galette.jpg

    Going on the non-realist side, I've always felt uplifted by the work of Kandinsky, here's an example:

    http://pippastephens.files.wordpress.../kandinsky.jpg
    Yeah I like that Renoir too.

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    Okay, any at the ISU conference? Must introduce a motion on the floor that "uplifting" means costumes inspired by the Painter of Light. . . . NOW!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    DickButtonFan I think you should realise that:

    a) there is no single definition of art and it can be different things for different people

    b) people might have different goals and ideals in life

    I find being told what should I be striving for by you extremely offensive. My goals are completely different and in any case, as a gay person, I am excluded from your fairy tale picture of family life.



    Sometimes there isn't a solution or the solution is not attainable. That's the whole point.
    I don't think a gay person is excluded from having family life. That's not what I was implying at all. You just assumed what my viewpoint of what a family should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    I don't think a gay person is excluded from having family life. That's not what I was implying at all. You just assumed what my viewpoint of what a family should be.
    Well if you lay out definitions for things that are this narrow, then a lot of people who don't fit with your preconceived ideas, are going to become excluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Well if you lay out definitions for things that are this narrow, then a lot of people who don't fit with your preconceived ideas, are going to become excluded.
    If it's narrow then how can you Assume that's what I meant. I mostly just said art is to find the meaning of life and family is something to strive for. Families come in all shades and genders these days. I don't need to be called naive for something I didn't say. I try to respect all opinons without insulting or name calling. I strive for meaning in life and in art rather than aesthetics Theres nothing wrong with that and me stating my views as you state yours.
    Last edited by DickButtonFan; 06-15-2010 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    Funny, I took art history at University as well and was taught to cringe at artists such as Pollock etc.
    This is where you lost me. Whoever taught that course is missing the whole concept of what art is, and our individual relationships to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    Here are a couple.

    http://blogs.princeton.edu/wri152-3/...in-galette.jpg

    Going on the non-realist side, I've always felt uplifted by the work of Kandinsky, here's an example:

    http://pippastephens.files.wordpress.../kandinsky.jpg
    I love Kandinsky! I love that painting. I like a lot of modern art. Because I like to look at it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DickButtonFan View Post
    Funny, I took art history at University as well and was taught to cringe at artists such as Pollock etc. Kinkade's work seems to embrace and seek a higher purpose, to me that fine art.
    Higher purpose like getting people with craptastic taste to shell out $$$ for a kitsch only worthy of a Hallmark™ store.
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