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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyliefan View Post
    I'm just the opposite -- I LOVE writing dialogue and am fairly good at it, I think, but I'm subpar at most other elements. Especially bad at settings and atmosphere. I'd be quite happy writing a novel made up entirely of dialogue!

    But in the fiction department, I've only written fanfic. So I really do admire you for trying your hand at real fiction!

    Have you read any Roddy Doyle? "The Commitments" "The Snapper" and "The Van" are all mainly dialogue and are all fantastic reads.

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    When I write, I tend to have a lot of dialogue because I'm always visualizing it as either a play or film. When I first started, I tried to overcompensate but putting a lot of details in-between my dialogue-heavy scenes, but my tough editor friend told me something that many posters here have already told you. Show the reader, not tell.

    Keep it up because if you're like me, then you must find that actually following through with a writing project is incredibly rewarding no matter how frustrating the process could be.

    BTW, I can't seem to access your link.
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    Really great thread. It's always been hard to find good skating fiction and I love the suggestions on here for good writing. I'm reading your story, TABfan! 102 chapters?? Wow...guess I'll have a good long read for summer! I've only just gotten started with it, so far I agree with the suggestions, more show, not tell. Looking forward to seeing how you progress along with it! Thank you again for sharing with us.

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    Good job. The creativity is there which attributes to building focus on the characters. I'm really impressed with your natural talent as a writer. I also agree with others here about more show, not tell. I'm a writer of poetry and it is an accomplishment if one can create a "painting" with their words. I definitely see that painting coming alive within you.

    Thank you for sharing and I'm looking forward to reading more of your chapters!
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    Thanks again for the continuing comments. I would love to read the skating fiction that others on here have written even if it is old school!
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    TanithandBenFan, most importantly, as was said earlier, have fun doing the writing, envisioning actual scenes coming to life as well as making the editing changes. As a writer, I've learned that it's totally okay to step back from your work for a while because when you come back to it, you see it with fresh eyeballs. Often, when I do step back from my work (and I've been considering other approaches or reading good books on improving your writing - "The First Five Pages" by Noah Lukeman is excellent btw), not only can you see the micro-editing improvements you want to make, but even the macro- ones, such as changing the order of events and withholding certain information to add more intrigue.

    If there's enough interested members to start an FSU writing club, maybe we could appeal to Her Sharpness for a forum on the site...

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    I can't get the link to work for me, TAB. It either times out or I get some error message, but I will give you some general advice from someone who writes stories for fun and grades History and English papers:

    There's not an FSU writing club, but many of us participate in National Write A Novel In A Month in November, and we have our own group for that. Usually, the thread for it here starts appearing mid-to-late Octoberish.

    I'd suggest, TABfan, that you put your novel up there and participate in it. You can join groups in your area and get face-to-face feedback with other writers, should you choose to do so. It will also give you not necessarily more honest feedback, but a point of view from a wider audience. Some Barnes & Noble stores have writers' groups where you can get critiqued from people who aren't skating fans but are book fans.

    Edit. Cut, cut, cut, cut, edit, then edit your edits. Then cut, cut, cut, cut. You do not get paid by the word. They are not that precious. Be careful of using big words. You do not impress people if you say azure instead of blue. Keep it simple, especially at first. I have a big problem with this.

    Read everything you write outloud, especially dialogue. I don't care how many word processing softwares are invinted, you catch a lot more mistakes reading it out loud. If you lose your place, it doesn't make since, cut. CUUUUUTTTT. This is the most valuable advice I gave to my students. Yes, it looks funny. That's OK. What matters is if it sounds funny.
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    Thanks for the tips, Matry! The site is always down on Saturday nights for maintenance, I suppose. I almost completely rewrote Chapter 1 and would love feedback if anyone wants to read it again:

    Life On the Edge-Chapter 1

    I'm currently working on rewriting Chapter 2. I've also posted Ch. 16-22 for anyone who was reading.
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    There's not an FSU writing club, but many of us participate in National Write A Novel In A Month in November, and we have our own group for that. Usually, the thread for it here starts appearing mid-to-late Octoberish.
    As a clarification to what Matryeshka wrote, it's National Novel Writing Month, commonly referred to by many member writers as NaNoWriMo.
    http://www.nanowrimo.org/

    The site is open for posting from October through late August. Generally, it is closed for the month of September to reset the boards and prepare for the new writing challenge which officially starts on November 1st of each year;the site reopens for use on October 1st. You can access the forum, now, through the above link. Select "forum" at the top of the opening page and you're all set. There are tons of information there, now, from the 2009 season, and the boards are still open and in active use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TanithandBenFan View Post
    I've also posted Ch. 16-22 for anyone who was reading.
    Thx! I'm loving it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D&Sfan4ever View Post
    Thx! I'm loving it so far.
    Thank you, I'm so glad you're enjoying it!

    I rewrote Chapter 2. Trying to apply some lessons learned.

    NaNoWriMo looks interesting, but November is a bad month for me - I'll be at Skate America for a week. Also, this is really the only story I want to write. It's possibly going to be a series of books because I have so much material. I'll be working on this for quite awhile!
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    There's nothing I can add that others haven't already said, but you might also look at www.critiquecircle.com. It's a great site for getting/giving critiques. I ran my first novel through there, chapter by chapter, and learned a lot about writing.
    Good luck with your writing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgail View Post
    There's nothing I can add that others haven't already said, but you might also look at www.critiquecircle.com. It's a great site for getting/giving critiques. I ran my first novel through there, chapter by chapter, and learned a lot about writing.
    Good luck with your writing!
    Thanks, that site looks really cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice dance View Post
    Noel Streatfield had a very distinctive way of writing dialogue - she rarely wrote "he said" or "she said". She would write an action, then write what the character said.
    For example:
    Jane came into the room.
    "Would you like a drink?"
    Sally looked up from her book.
    "Yes please."

    I personally find that style of writing makes it very easy to visualise what's happening. Don't know if that's any help to you though.
    This has become very common today, and is in fact quite seamless. However, it would now look like this:

    Jane came into the room. "Would you like a drink?"

    Sally looked up from her book. "Yes please."

    Basically, the action serves as the dialogue tag, which makes it a little more clear than seperating the dialogue and the action.

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    TABfan, your work looks really good so far, especially with the rewrite. I would rework the interview scene a bit, as it seems a little stiff. There are times when people are stating things that the other person already knows. An example of this is the discussion of Sergei and his ex partner. Clearly, Emily and Chris both know this info, so it should not be stated in dialogue.

    Anyway, I also write and participate in NaNoWriMo. I am also an ML for my local area. Sadly, I have not done much in the way of editing my 2009 novel, which is a skating novel. Oh well, at least I have the excuse of having just gotten married and moved. :-p My goal is to have it edited in the next few months, which is taking longer than planned because I am changing it to first person.

    I'd love to see an FSU writing club. However, personally, I think it would be better if it was something that a mod had to add you to. Self-publishing something, even for free online, isn't the best idea for those (like myself) who wish to seek traditional publication later on. However, it is not considered "published" if it is in a password protected writers group.
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    This is a bit random (though skatepixie knows very well about all this stuff considering we're RL friends who talk writing a lot!), but I was pondering turning my figure skating role playing game characters (a writing RPG) into a novel just for something to do with my time. However, it seems like a lot of skating novels are about singles ladies or pair teams. Should I just stick with that? I'm very fond of a male singles skater I've been writing with for the RPG but I don't know how I could even start something!

    TABfan, I really am enjoying your novel!

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    Thanks so much for your suggestions, skatepixie. Every bit of information helps!

    Lanie, I'd much rather read about a male singles skater than one of the ladiezzzz. You should go for it!
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    Please TABfan continue posting!!! I had great fun reading your story, I like your writing!
    I went through the 25 chapters up there all in one go and you can't just leave us hanging like this... what happens next???!!! I need to know!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhrayth View Post
    Please TABfan continue posting!!! I had great fun reading your story, I like your writing!
    I went through the 25 chapters up there all in one go and you can't just leave us hanging like this... what happens next???!!! I need to know!!!
    You have no idea how much it makes my day when people say they're enjoying it! Just added Chapter 26.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TanithandBenFan View Post
    You have no idea how much it makes my day when people say they're enjoying it! Just added Chapter 26.
    and 27! I've bookmarked your page so I'll keep checking for new bits!

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    I LOVED chapters 26 & 27. I also bookmarked your page. I can't wait to read more chapters!
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