Wow I didnt realize Miki even tried the quad in Turin. I guess she realized her only hope of a medal there was to do something like that. Was that the only quad she tried after fall of 2004?
I really don't get this scenario.
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You guys are underestimating Yuna at 15, I think she could have done much better than 7th or 9th like a few have predicted. I mean she had 3f-3t and 2a-3t in her LP and Roxanne was her SP.
She had been skating like that all season, and honestly I think Yuna would have held her own against the other competitors.
Michelle being higher than even 4th or even 5th at Torino is a joke. She is in no way meant for COP with those low jumps and poor spins even in her prime.
The best total scores (single international competition) for the aforementioned skaters in the 05-06 season:
1. Irina Slutskaya 198.06 COR in Russia (196.12 COC in China)
2. Shizuka Arakawa 191.34 Olympics in Italy
3. Kimmie Meissner 189.87 Worlds in Canada
4. Mao Asada 189.62 GPF in Japan (182.42 TEB in France)
5. Sasha Cohen 183.36 Olympics
6. Fumie Suguri 181.27 Worlds
7. Carolina Kostner 172.45 Euro in France
8. Miki Ando 172.30 COR
9. Joannie Rochette 167.27 Olympics
Yuna Kim 177.54 "Junior" Worlds in Slovenia (3-2 in SP while 3F-3T in LP)
Michelle Kwan N/A
The second best score in parenthesis for those who are not comfortable with home turf stuff.
Last edited by key65man; 05-23-2010 at 09:03 PM.
Also, to me, Yuna at that age resembles more Michelle during the 1995-1996 season, physically still looking a bit young but skating with a lot of maturity and expression
Last edited by pinky166; 05-25-2010 at 02:54 PM.
Personally I dont see anyway in 2006 Yu Na beats a hypothetical at their best and totally clean Slutskaya, Cohen, Arakawa, or Asada so already 5th is the absolute highest she could even hope for in this scenario. Whether she would even be placed over a clean Kwan that year is even debateable, alot would depend on how much Kwan had improved under COP in the year since the 05 Worlds. Of course Ando with her performances at Nationals is bumped off the team now with Asada age eligible so I will drop her from my original post. Kostner though was a World bronze medalist on home ice, I am not sure of newbie Kim being placed above her with both skating cleanly either. The triple-triples would probably push her past Rochette, Suguri, and she would probably beat Meissner with both skating their best at that point, but beyond that no gaurantees IMO. I would say 5th to 7th place if we take Ando off the Japanese team now.
Remember the hypothetical scenario I am presenting is with everyone skating cleanly and the best they were possibly capable of doing that year. If Kim had skated at the 2006 Olympics with how it actually was skated and skated her own best of course she could have atleast been 4th or 5th, quite possibly even won silver or bronze.
Irina or Michelle would be the Olympic Champion in 2002 under COP too IMO. Sasha or maybe Fumie would have won the bronze. Sarah would have had many of her jumps downgraded, edge calls, be far behind after the short program. I actually have a hard time figuring out just how low she might have finished but it wouldnt have even been on the podium.