Oksana PASHA Grishuk
Oksana PASHA Grishuk
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Remember, it has to be just one individual, not two lists--for male and female.
judgejudy27, I apologize for the name calling in previous thread. There isn't any excuse for it and I apologize to you and before everyone, and hope that you will accept my apology.
Oh, please, give me a break with all the Virtue, Moir, Fusar-Poli, Margaglio, Navka and others like them. I mean, seriously?
About Virtue and Moir - yes, excellent skills, yes, wonderful lines, flow, speed and whatnot but, gosh, they're just so... boring. No passion. No real expression besides the "oh my, I'm so innocent" look on their faces. There's nothing inside them that makes you feel like you're watching a movie, nothing that makes you feel you've reached to their souls, I don't even know how to explain that, they're just so predictable. They're ballroom dancers, without an ability to show you a story that would melt your heart. And Scott - totally Tessa's shadow for me. No personality of his own on ice at all.
Fusar-Poli - uhm, I guess the best ice dancer should be a great athlete as well, who knows how to behave sometimes?
Margaglio and Navka didn't have either the extraordinary skills V/M at least have, nor any inner fire or personality to make you fall for them. JMO
You wanna know my definition for a perfect male ice dancer? The one who makes his partner look stunning - and does that so good that it makes him look stunning himself. And for that, my pick is Povilas Vanagas. Olivier comes close behind.
And apart from that, of course, they have to have personalities out there. They have to make me feel butterflies by the way they look at their partners or hold them. And those two guys above were doing it, damn sure.
Last edited by mia joy; 05-19-2010 at 05:01 PM.
I hope the votes for Margaglio were a joke. Porny : Yes. Good skater : NO !
"If I agree well it's just to appease you 'cause I don't remember what were fighting for..." - Sarah McLachlan
I remember commentators saying that Povilas Vanagas was probably the best ice dancer of the circuit (when he was eligible)
Overall I'll go with Chris Dean too.
On the ladies' side I would say Klimova - just because she is my all time favourite
I think Scott Moir is the best dancer competing today. He is an extraordinary talent. mia joy, I think one of Scott's greatest qualities IS how he shows off Tessa. He is beautiful in his presentation of her.
IMHO - Oliver is greate skater, but dancer must to show more upper-body movement.
I really love Vanagas and for me he is better ice dancer, then Olivier, because he was more emotional, more plastic and entertainer.
But they both couldnt be compaerd with Dean
And watch there skating at Moir age
Ahhh totally forgot about Povilas Vanagas. Can't believe he's not getting more mentions.
I still would place Dean above him because of the impact his made but Povilas deserves a mention.
about Dean - you're all probably right, only consider I only follow FS since 2000 so don't really know Dean. I watched the Bolero once but TBH it didn't touch my soul too much actually I'm not really into watching the legends of FS I didn't get to see compete. Maybe I should, though.
so you probably understand Povilas being my number 1 now honestly he's the best male ice dancer I've ever been blessed to see compete
Ziggy - any thoughts Povilas may have not made impact because he was (well, is) Lithuanian?
Drobiazko/Vanagas have always been ridiculously undermarked.
The Tango FD was one of the most complex ID programs ever and to think they dumped it because they were being marked so low...
I'm not even going to mention the Worlds medal debacle because it's just .
I'd like to say Grishuk but would have to vote for Platov for his versatility, excellent technical precision, and his way of being in control of the partnership (given how feisty Pasha was). Unlike Margaglio & Novitski, to me, he never let himself get overpowered by his partner. Grishuk is one of my favs but i can think of other lady dancers that are better in other aspects of their skating. So, my vote goes for Platov
I agree however with V/M not being at the same maturity/veteran level as N/K, the 3 D/S's, D/V, A/P, but for me they are the most perfect NA dance team so far, so hopefully we will see how they grow in the next 4 yrs experimenting with different styles.
Also their 84 Paso Doble is a classic. An Original Set Pattern dance that doesn't look like an OSP. And it has some incredibly difficult stuff in it. I think as close to perfect as what a dance can be.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
yes, that's what I'm talking about - insead of putting them already on a pedestal, just let them grow, enjoy seing them grow and make judgements when know you've seen their best alreadyI agree however with V/M not being at the same maturity/veteran level as N/K, the 3 D/S's, D/V, A/P, but for me they are the most perfect NA dance team so far, so hopefully we will see how they grow in the next 4 yrs experimenting with different styles.
Aussie Willy - thank you for your suggestions, I'm gonna give them one more chance then