Willie, what's your choice, mate--Chris or Marina? It can be only one.
Eurodance2001, Blue Idealist, Simone411, Wyliefan, I didn't get your choices. I assume you were unable to give one. If the tally is incorrect, I'm sure someone will let me know.
Chris Dean - great partnering and skating skills, but most importantly, the man changed ice dance through his own vision. Also, what other person could package the Duchenay's and sell that hot mess to a World panel?
Margaglio for the win!!!
If I have to pick one it would be Chris Dean, just because of the impact on the sport.
When you are up to your arse in alligators it is difficult to remember you were only meant to be draining the swamp.
Male, Chris Dean, female Maia Usova, overall, Chris for the win.
I agree with Aussie Willy-I couldn't stand Grishuk's legline-and when you're picking for the ages, that matters. Maia's every position was gorgeous, plus she had great expression and ability to convey the character of different dances. And utterly to die for CD's. Grishuk was faster-but if I was picking fast, I'd pick Charlie White, who is not on my top 5 list.
As to why not Klimova, Klimova was a little lacking in that feature. She was at her best being Air (Bach) or Wind (Lawrence of Arabia) or Waltzing Girl or some such abstract concept where the viewer wasn't looking for the dance to have any real character at all, or for the dancer to portray anything but fluid movement. In retrospect, I wonder whether she does not have much imagination.
at good ol' Muarizio officially having a vote.
Can I change my official vote to Schoenfelder then, since Grishuk is already so well represented?
Pakhomova from female dancers and Din from mail dancers.
But i think, that Jamy Silverstein had femomenal talent too.
And Scott Moir too
Marina Klimova the best IMHO plus my fav
God knows I'm really not the biggest fan, but the person that comes to my mind first - is Tatiana Navka
As for not remembering the old skool, I command you to YouTube to watch vids of the top 80s and 90s teams, back when ice dance was Ice Dance!
In terms of abilities (at least to my eyes), I'd rank them as following:
Male Ice Dancers
1. Christopher Dean
2. Evgeny Platov
3. Sergei Ponomarenko
4. Maxim Staviyski
5. Scott Moir
6. Povilas Vanagas
7. Gwendal Peizerat
8. Olivier Schoenfelder
9. Alexander Zhulin
10. Ben Agosto
Female Ice Dancers
1. Marina Klimova
2. Oksana Grishuk
3. Jane Torvill
4. Tessa Virtue
5. Tatiana Navka (love her basics but hated most of her material w/ Zhulin)
6. Albena Denkova
7. Isabelle Delobel
8. Marina Anissina
9. not sure
10. not sure
I'm very torn in terms of how to rank the top 3 for both lists.
ETA - I should make note that if I combine both lists together, it would look very different. For example, I consider the top 3 from male ice dancers to be above the top 3 female ice dancers. It's also difficult to name just 'one' skater since they skated as a team with their partner.
Last edited by gk_891; 05-19-2010 at 03:10 AM.
I would have loved to have seen what Grishuk and Dean could have done together on ice. What a combo... the wild thing is Platov and Torvill weren't shabby either and certainly weren't carried like some partnerships... *cough* Margaglio, Shabalin *cough*
~I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.~ (Charles R. Swindoll)
Btw, I actually think Scott Moir is funny but whatever.. agree to disagree!
One more for Maxim Staviski and DenSta team
Tatiana Navka would easily be getting more votes had she had a better partner, there was a fluidity to her movement that really doesn't get enough notice IMO. She was so good, maybe not as good as Pasha (but she had better lines), but def in my top 3 of all-time.