What my friends said over .
- Soccer fan: Hit the goal post then it's an intermediate goal and 0.7 point.
- Basketball fan: Hit the rim out of 3 points line then it's an intermediate goal and 2 point. Hitting the back board, 1 point. Out of half line?? Well.. 4 and 3 each.
- Baseball fan: Fly out near the warning track... It's an intermediate home run and (1 + Runner(s)) * 0.7 point.
- Football fan: Failed touchdown 5yds away from the opposite end zone.. It's an intermediate touchdown and 4.2 point.
Easy! easy! Just jokes from other sport fans.
Just my curiosity...
What would be the over rotated double or triple jumps?
Underrotated triples or quads? or just turn over?
Yay, the trolls are crawling out of the woodwork
The difference between baseball/football/etc and figure skating is that figure skating is judged. It's really not a valid comparison.
Last edited by oleada; 05-07-2010 at 07:38 AM.
Last edited by RumbleFish; 05-07-2010 at 08:28 AM.
Loving the proposals (so far).
The "<" and "<<" distinction and freedom to award GOE is encouraging for Nagasu and Czisny (and Wagner to a lesser extent). And obviously very helpful for Asada and Ando (and the bunch of young Russian girls if this rule was to stay til Sochi). Sigh, Nakano retired too early.
Now Mao can do a 3flip3toe, 3axel and 3loop to counter Kim's 3lutz3toe, 3flip and 2axel + crazy GOEs. Ando's 3lutz3loop will likely return. However, with everyone trying 3/3s again, GOE will continue to be of importance for placement. I don't think Kim is doomed just yet but I don't think she can ever win comfortably just based on her sp lead alone now.
I think part of the reason for decreasing the value of the sal and flip, besides to bring them closer in value to the toe and loop, is to slightly counter the advantage of counting half loop sal/ flip as a combo.
I am very glad they are attaching more importance and value (if ever so slightly) to the camel and layback, and then less value to sit, and downplaying upright altogether. It's about time we lose those spin layouts with 90% of sit positions collecting all the features. And on getting rid of COE on the back sit and on all upright spins!
I love you can only collect 2 features on each foot now and most importantly you can no long repeat backward entry, any COE and any difficult variation as a feature! I wish the rules were a bit clearer though. What if I did back (or COE) camel on my first spin and back (or COE) sit on my second? Can I count both?
Hopefully we can finally see interesting, complex but non-repetitive spins next season.
I think getting rid of the ! and the mandatory negative GOE means Asada and Wagner can (and should) keep their flutz because they were able to do very difficult steps directly into it before.
I think it can be a little counter-intuitive to lessen the penalty on mistakes (cheated rotations and wrong edge takeoffs) but I hope this also means they will reward proper technique more (fully rotated jumps and correct takeoffs ala Kim).
In any event I think it's safe to say Lepisto is doomed unless she started to (semi)rotate
that there is still no thoughts on encouraging jumping variety and applying PCS properly.
Rewarding difficulty is one thing. Not rewarding quality is another. I would probably be OK with either one or the other proposal but not both at the same time.
Now I think Kim is doomed.
I wish the coming Worlds is won by Stojko-esque and Bonaly-esque skaters. Difficulty my arse.
Last edited by Marco; 05-07-2010 at 09:11 AM.
1.1% bonus for jumps done after the halfway point plus 1.1% bonus for combos probably means even more jumps after the halfway point. I mean starting with a jump is traditional and may get the skaters mind right into the competition but with these bonuses now what is going to be the difficulty level of that opening jump or jumps as everyone saves energy for after the halfway point where there is just a total bonanza of free points available in every single direction! Triple axel double toe combo was already worth over 10 points after the halfway point with positive GOE and now there would be more bonus points for it! Well no one will know anything until the first competition under this system and I hope Patrick Chan, Brezina, Contesti, are a part of it for obvious reasons.