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    Figure skating rule proposals, continued.

    205. ISU: QUALIFYING ROUNDS FOR ISU CHAMPIONSHIPS

    found on page 111

    Minimum qualifying scores are introduced. Members (federations) can enter at least one competitor per discipline provided that they have met the minimum qualifying score.

    Minimum Qualifying Scores
    To be entered into and participate in the Championships/Qualifying Round of a Senior ISU Championships a Competitor must have reached in an ISU recognized International Competition during the ongoing or immediately preceeding season the applicable minimum Total Result Scores (points). The applicable minimum Total Result Scores shall be decided for each season by the ISU Council based on a joint proposal from the respective Technical Committee and the Sports Directorate and shall be published in an ISU Communication. No Minimum Score is required for the ISU World Junior Figure Skating Championships.

    Please note that the applicable Minimum Total Result Scores for results obtained during the season 2009/10 will be as follows:
    Men: 40 (SP), 70 (FS)
    Ladies: 30 (SP), 50 (FS)
    Pair Skating: 35 (SP), 60 (FS)
    Ice Dance: 20 (CD), 35 (OD), 55 (FD) or 35 (SD) and 55 (FD)


    Competitors can be entered directly into the first segment of the competition or into the Qualifying Round (QR).

    Total Number of Entries into each Competition Segment
    Euros and 4CCs:
    Singles: 28 (first segment) = 18 (direct entries) + 10 (QR)
    Pairs: 18 (first segment) = 12 (direct entries) + 6 (QR)
    Ice Dance: 20 (first segment) = 12 (direct entries) + 8 (QR)

    Worlds and Jr. Worlds:
    Singles: 30 (first segment) = 18 (direct entries) + 12 (QR)
    Pairs: 20 (first segment) = 12 (direct entries) + 8 (QR)
    Ice Dance: 25 (first segment) = 15 (direct entries) + 10 (QR)

    * In the case that the number of total Competitors subject to be entered into a Championships, either directly or through a Qualifying Round exceeds this quota only by 2 Competitors, the President has the right to cancel such Qualifying Round for the respective discipline and to increase the number of total entries into the first segment of the Championships by 2 Competitors. (applies for all ISU Championships)

    In case some of the Members do not use their full quota of Direct entries, the resulting open Direct entries will be replaced by Qualifying Round entries by increasing the number of Qualifying Round entries. (for Jr. Worlds and Worlds).

    Overall Entry Quotas
    Members who have participated in the immediately preceding season in the corresponding discipline (Men, Ladies, Pair Skating, Ice Dance) of the same Championship shall accumulate points equal to the sum of placements of their Competitors who were entered in this preceding season’s Championships.

    The point system remains the same as currently used to determine spots (entry quotas) for Euros and Worlds. 4CC is still open entry (no quota, max 3 per member).

    Direct Entries
    Members are listed in the order of their best placed participant in the corresponding discipline of the preceding season’s same Championships.

    From the Overall Entry Quota a Member gets as many Direct entries as the number of this Member’s Skaters in the top 18 places for Singles, top 12 places for Pairs and top 15 places for Ice Dance in the corresponding discipline of the preceding season’s same Championships.

    In case the number of Direct Entries obtained this way is less than required, the next listed Member(s) obtain the right for Direct entry until the required number of entries is reached.

    For these Direct entries, the respective Members may decide upon the entries by name at their discretion provided the entered Competitor(s) have reached the Minimum Scores as per paragraph 3. above.

    Qualifying Round
    Competitors competing in the Qualifying Round and succeeding to earn an entry into the first segment of the Championships, are entitled to skate the first segment of the Championships. In case of withdrawal/disqualification, the corresponding entry into the first segment cannot be transferred to another Competitor of the Member.

    The Qualifying Rounds include only the Free Skating, respectively the Free Dance.

    The Qualifying Rounds will be skated at least one day prior to the first competition day of the respective Championships in the same venue as the Championships.

    However, the expenses for travel, board and lodging of participants in the Qualifying
    Rounds are at the expense of the participating Members.


    The draw for the starting order in the Qualifying Round will be made according to Rule 579, respectively 635.

    Scores (Points) achieved at the Qualifying Round shall not be considered for the Final.

    Disposed Entries
    In case a Member disposes of Direct entries as well as Qualifying Round entries in a Championships/discipline, the Competitors ranked higher in the ISU World Standings (at time of making the entry) must be given preference for the Direct entries. The Competitor(s) ranked lower in the ISU World Standings must be entered into the Qualifying Round.

    (^ I am not sure I understand this...I think they are trying to say that if for example Russia has 3 pairs spots but only 2 direct entries the top 2 ISU-ranked pairs get the direct entries and the lower ranked pair has to go to the QR.
    Or are they talking about if someone gives up a direct entry and who it goes to?. I don't get how they are using "dispose" here...)


    Host Member Rule
    If the competitor(s) of the host member did not qualify for the first segment (SP, SD) during the QR, one competitor of the Host Member shall have the right to additionally enter and participate in each discipline provided they meet the minimum score requirements.

    Reason: The increasingly high number of entries in ISU Championships constitutes a serious challenge and threat, both to the organizing ISU Members and the ISU. It results in high expenses and has already threatened the appropriate financial funding and consequently organization and conduct of ISU Championships. It furthermore makes it basically impossible to stage attractive Championships with high quality skating and a reasonable duration which nowadays is crucial for live TV telecast and for attracting the public on site.

    The Council and Techical Committees have prepared this proposal taking into account that the ISU Championships are the highest level ISU Events. As such, Championships should be open to Competitors of an adequate level only and consequently guaranty to remain an attractive product for the media and the public which is the basis to generate the needed ISU incomes. Such incomes are the necessary basis to maintain the ISU activity thanks to generous ISU financial support.

    The Council furthermore took into account that the ISU is giving substantial financial support to other ISU Events, such as the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating and ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating where lower level competitors have a chance to compete internationally at favourable financial conditions.

    Through the introduction of Qualifying Rounds before and at the site of the Championships for lower level Competitors and the reduction of entries into the actual Championships, the financial burden of the Championships organizing Members becomes more reasonable. All Members, also those with lower level Skaters, have a possibility to be on site of the Championships at a certain expense and possibly qualify their Competitors for the actual Championships.
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    Thanks, HisWeirness.

    Much to think about.

    I wonder if some of these proposals (like the "Disposed Entries" one) make more sense in whatever language the originator normally speaks. I'm confused. (Feels like I'm reading a use and care booklet from 1990 written by someone in Taiwan who learned English from someone who knew someone who sort-of spoke English.

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    Interesting to note that the second step sequence for the men and the spiral sequence for the ladies will have a fixed base value and be judged only on GOE. Only two 3 second positions or one 6 second position is required for a spiral sequence to count.

    The men also must pick either camel or sit for their flying spin in the SP and do the other position for their change foot single position spin. IIRC, many of the men have iffy camel spins, so this should be interesting to see .
    Who is Conan O'Brien and why is she so sad?

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    I'm really confused at the rule that says a short dance OR a pattern dance can be used as the first round in ice dance. Are they going to go back and forth between the two types like they do (or did ) between different compulsory dances?

    Also, with the previous language about music selections in ice dance and now the increase in deductions for "violations of music", I'm just not encouraged about the direction dance continues to take. I think everyone will play it even more safe and we'll see a bunch of Shpilband knockoffs this season.

    I would love that they're increasing the value of the Choreography mark for ice dance if the judges actually marked it individually rather than just keeping it in line as the other PCS. More 9' and 10's for Davis and White, and now they'll be worth even more!

    The "Aze Rule" is . But how do they determine what are "genuine" and "serious" reasons for changing countries? That might get messy.

    It looks like there is consensus for bringing back a full panel, although Russia still wants the anonymity. I can understand that after the Russia judged got raked over the coals for being the only one brave enough to mark Hughe's sp correctly in SLC.

    I love that France is trying to think of ways to bring in cash, but if online gambling of skating events becomes standard than I fear for my financial well being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rpg View Post
    Interesting to note that the second step sequence for the men and the spiral sequence for the ladies will have a fixed base value and be judged only on GOE. Only two 3 second positions or one 6 second position is required for a spiral sequence to count.
    So they can get creative with other positions in ways that enhance the choreography, without technical reward even if there's more difficulty. And to include spread eagles, etc., in between the spirals if they prefer? We still probably won't see many attempts at difficult moves or positions that would have been features in the current rules but were too hard to get credit for and could also have a negative effect on quality, like back layouts or slide spirals. But there's always the possibility for GOE or PCS reward for fitting the music or for creativity, and holding a different, probably easier, position for 6 or two different positions for 3 will get the sequence to count.

    No more requirement that only the first three positions count -- can several short positions followed by one 6-second position fill the requirement? Who's to say which of the preceding positions were part of the sequence and which were just transitions?

    The men also must pick either camel or sit for their flying spin in the SP and do the other position for their change foot single position spin. IIRC, many of the men have iffy camel spins, so this should be interesting to see .
    Yeah. I'm wondering whether some of the senior guys will choose flying upright spins if they don't have good camels. Or if they don't have good sits, for a much smaller percentage.

    Juniors are still at the mercy of the group rotations between flying camel/change sit and flying sit/change camel each year.

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    Figure skating rule proposals, continued.

    206. Canada FS: new dance language changes.

    207, 208, and 209. Denmark/Finland/Sweden: All Skaters entered for ISU Championships must have participated in at least one International junior or senior competition on the ISU list during the 24 months preceding the Championships.

    210. Tech Comms: technical specialist rules.

    211. ISU: Eliminate small medals in ISU Championships.

    212. Ice Dance TC: new dance language changes.

    213. Austria FS: In view of the fact that the number of entries to the Olympic Games is limited, the qualification should be based on the names of the competitors, who actually placed within the top 24 in singles and 16 in pairs and 19 in dance at the previous World Championships and not the country. The right to participate in the Olympics should be privilege of the athletes and not their Member Associations.

    214. SPS and Ice Dance TC: technical specialist rules.

    215. ISU: Judges Panels for the Olympics: 9 judges per segment. From Communication 1535.

    216. Austria FS: The panels of judges for the Olympic Games should consist of judges whose Members actually have a
    Skater qualified for the Olympic Games.

    217. Canada FS: 13 judges for the Olympics, plus one alternate. Remove secret-random scores draw.

    218. Russia FS: Another Olympics judges draw proposal.

    219. USA FS: 12 judges for the Olympics, plus one alternate.

    220. SPS and Ice Dance TC: Olympics judges must have judged at least twice at ISU Championships or Olympics Qualifying Competition. Experienced judges for Olympics.

    221. USA FS: Allow all Olympics judges' scores to count after a trim of high and low score.

    222. and 223. Ice Dance TC: new dance language changes.

    224. Tech Comms: Referee AND the judges panel decide on costume, prop, and music violations (majority rule, referee double weighted). Want to avoid decisions taken by one person whenever possible.

    ok this is getting boring. I am going to skip past the boring judges stuff.

    258. ISU: Improved assessment of judges/technical panel. (It's really long, but if you care about it you can read it )


    Technical Rules for Single and Pairs Skating (more fun stuff )

    266. SPS TC: New Rule 510 - Required Elements.
    Half-loop when used in combinations/sequences is considered as a listed jump with the Value of a Loop.
    Reason: to increase the variety of difficult three-jump-combinations.

    267. SPS TC: A difficult change of position counts as a difficult spin variation. Also, to delete the requirements to the sit position that will be fulfilled automatically with the upper part of the skating leg parallel to the ice or even directed “upwards”; not to count as a new position simple upright spins even with more than 3 revolutions; also clarifications.

    Singles
    Short Program

    268: SPS TC: Allow solo 3A or 2A in Senior Ladies SP to fulfill the axel entry requirement.
    Reduce number of elements in SP.
    One step sequence in the Senior/Jr SP for men.
    Spiral sequence not a required element for senior/Jr ladies SP.


    269: SPS TC: Men can do 2 quads in SP. However, they can't repeat a the same quad jump twice in the Men's SP (can't do 2 4T). The second jump must be a different type of quad jump.
    Can't repeat 3A in the senior ladies SP or mens SP.

    Any type of flying spin is permitted with landing position different than in the Spin in one position.

    Senior Men - spin with only one change of foot: The Competitor is free to must choose either the camel position or the sit position to be executed, but this position must be different from the landing position of the Flying spin.

    Step sequences may include any unlisted jumps.

    Though a spiral sequence is no longer an element of the Ladies Short Program, the execution of Spirals will be rewarded in “Transitions”.

    Free Skating.
    270. SPS TC: For all: A Double Axel cannot be included more than two (2) times in total in a Single’s Free Program (as a Solo Jump or a part of Combination/Sequence).

    For Senior Men the second (in the order of execution) step sequence will always be awarded a fixed Base Value and evaluated by Judges in GOE only. This sequence can have any pattern while fully utilizing the ice surface. [/B]

    For Ladies: There must be at least two (2) spiral positions not less than three (3) seconds long each or only one (1) spiral position not less than six (6) seconds long. In case this requirement is not fulfilled, the spiral sequence will have no value. The Spiral Sequence will always be awarded a fixed Base Value and evaluated by Judges in GOE only.

    Pairs skating

    271. SPS TC: new rule 519. Pairs skating. No changes here actually.

    272. SPS TC: new rule 520. Short Program, Pairs. Reduced to 7 required elements for Jr and Senior.
    No more pairs spiral sequences required.

    273. SPS TC: Though a spiral sequence is no longer an element of the Pairs Short Program, the execution of Spirals will be rewarded in “Transitions”.

    274. SPS TC: Pairs Free Skate. For Seniors the death spiral of Free Skating must be of a different type than the death spiral of the Short Program. No more than 1 spiral sequence.
    The jump combination may consist of two (2) or three (3) jumps.
    There must be at least two (2) spiral positions of each partner three (3) seconds long each. In case this requirement is not fulfilled, the spiral sequence will have no value.
    The Spiral Sequence will always be awarded a fixed Base Value and evaluated by Judges in GOE only.


    275. SPS TC: 1.1 factor for jump combinations.

    276. SPS TC: Illegal elements called Level 1 (if they meet the requirements) or no level and the illegal element deduction will apply. This is less severe on skaters.

    277. SPS TC: housekeeping.

    278. ISU: Rule 548. Clarify the procedure in case of withdrawal and/or disqualification in between segments. From Communication 1596.

    279. ISU: ISU Championship Draws.

    Qualifying for the free skate:

    Euros and 4CCs:
    Singles: top 18
    Pairs: top 12

    Worlds and Jr. Worlds:
    Singles: top 20
    Pairs: top 16


    Reason: Necessary amendments for Draws in line with proposal for Rule 378 and to reduce the number of Competitors to be qualified for the final Free Skating. Such reduction of competitors, qualified for the final Free Skating will offer to the public and Media an event of appropriate length and quality.

    280. ISU: Add qualifying rounds to listed judging procedures for ISU Championships. Add language specifying 9 judges on panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisWeirness View Post
    207, 208, and 209. Denmark/Finland/Sweden: All Skaters entered for ISU Championships must have participated in at least one International junior or senior competition on the ISU list during the 24 months preceding the Championships.
    I understand the motivation behind this, but I foresee problems, especially for Junior Worlds.

    Sometimes a 13-year-old (usually in ladies' singles or the girl in a pair or dance team) in the first year of junior eligibility not get assigned to that year's JGP because they weren't on the radar in their country from the previous season, or does get assigned but can't compete because of illness, etc., but then impresses at that country's nationals and is an obvious choice for Junior Worlds.

    A skater can have a breakout nationals in a country with deep fields at older ages also.

    It would also be a hardship for skaters from the southern hemisphere who would otherwise be making their international debuts at Four Continents. If that's even a possibility, they'd have to make another long trip, probably to a Senior B event in Europe, the previous autumn to be eligible to enter 4Cs?

    And what about new pair and dance teams, especially those involving one partner switching countries and sitting out for a year?

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    So a second step sequence for men no longer will be asigned a level but a point value. I expect lots of negative threes and positive threes for some people. Like ice dance.

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    The Bad

    Further Cuts to ISU Championships

    I can understand the point limits required if you want to compete at ISU Championships. It's only fair enough to demand a certain standard for those competitions.

    The huge reduction in the number of skaters allowed to be entered, together with the re-introduction of Qualification Rounds is completely unacceptable, however.

    First of all, it's discriminatory because some skaters will have to do it and others won't. Those who will are going to be at a disadvantage because of having been required to peak physically before the event begins.

    The fact the (mostly poor) federations are going to have to pay extra for this is going to end up in less skaters from those countries being able to perform.

    Most importantly the fact that a lot of skaters are not even going to see the short program is going to be a serious set back for the development of skating in many countries.

    Screw you ISU.

    14 to compete at Junior Worlds

    What is the point of that change exactly?

    Male Pairs/Ice Dance Junior Partners can't be older than 18

    It's going to cause massive problems. It's difficult enough trying to team up two people together under the current rules.

    Not being able to perform in Juniors after performing twice in Seniors

    I like the idea behind that but it seems too strict.

    It should be loosened somehow. As to allow a skater one more Junior season perhaps?

    All Skaters entered for ISU Championships must have participated in at least one International junior or senior competition on the ISU list during the 24 months preceding the Championships.
    Very bad for the reasons gkelly already mentioned.

    Getting rid of small medals

    Isn't this what the idiotic break between the 1st and 2nd FS groups was for?

    Why isn't the break gone too as well then?

    The Good

    Jump Combinations factored by 1.1

    Great change. Definitely makes sense!

    (Obviously some other minor improvements too )

    Quote Originally Posted by kirkbiggestfan View Post
    Can he do steps into his quads?
    I wonder if Joubert may go for the quad sal in the short too.
    A lot of skaters do not steps into their SP jump with impunity.

    Joubert is not even trying it in the FS recently, so no.

    Quote Originally Posted by caseyedwards View Post
    So a second step sequence for men no longer will be asigned a level but a point value. I expect lots of negative threes and positive threes for some people. Like ice dance.
    What the hell are you talking about?

    How many -3 GOE scores do you see in ID (hint: none, unless you fall)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    The Bad


    What the hell are you talking about?

    How many -3 GOE scores do you see in ID (hint: none, unless you fall)?
    WHOA! Harsh! No reason for it. Just look at a lot of negative 2's at the last Olympics where there were no falls. Relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rpg View Post
    The men also must pick either camel or sit for their flying spin in the SP and do the other position for their change foot single position spin. IIRC, many of the men have iffy camel spins, so this should be interesting to see .
    THIS is what I've wanted ever since COP came into play. I am so. freaking. tired. of seeing the men do a deathdrop, a sit-change-sit, and a combo spin with *just* two revolutions in a camel before dropping into a sit.
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingsit View Post
    THIS is what I've wanted ever since COP came into play. I am so. freaking. tired. of seeing the men do a deathdrop, a sit-change-sit, and a combo spin with *just* two revolutions in a camel before dropping into a sit.
    That is a great change, yep!

    Some of those guys are finally going to have to start learning camel spins. It's really not to be able to perform it properly at the Senior level.

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    The increasingly high number of entries in ISU Championships constitutes a serious challenge and threat, both to the organizing ISU Members and the ISU. It results in high expenses and has already threatened the appropriate financial funding and consequently organization and conduct of ISU Championships. It furthermore makes it basically impossible to stage attractive Championships with high quality skating and a reasonable duration which nowadays is crucial for live TV telecast and for attracting the public on site.
    The "threats" to financial viability are from the ISU's mismanagement of its funds, its overinflated ideas of what its product is worth on TV, and from the high-flying spending of its executives. Not from smaller federations wanting to have entries at ISU events.

    Besides, wasn't it just a few years ago that $peedy et al were handing out "developmental funds" to get new member federations to join the ISU (and vote for $peedy's ideas at the ISU congress )? So now because of all these new members there are too many entries at ISU events. Good planning, ISU!!

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    Im 50/50 with the new championship format rules ...

    I must say I hated Q rounds back in the day but this new format doesn't sound so bad. The top skaters dont get dragged into it and lots of small federation skaters get the chance to perform both their Free and Short Program, even if the former only as a qualifier, but still they gain experience and that's why they go to those competitions, no one expects any medals from them. Only 30 skaters for the short program is not enought though, I would have had it at 36.

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    207, 208, and 209. Denmark/Finland/Sweden: All Skaters entered for ISU Championships must have participated in at least one International junior or senior competition on the ISU list during the 24 months preceding the Championships.

    I'm fine with this for the World Championships, but it seems unnecessary for Euros or 4CCs (especially if they just put in the number of entrants rule for 4CC that Euros have), and it seems downright unhelpful for Jr. Worlds.

    If the rule is passed, I would anticipate an increase in the number of Senior Bs.

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    274. SPS TC: Pairs Free Skate. For Seniors the death spiral of Free Skating must be of a different type than the death spiral of the Short Program. No more than 1 spiral sequence.
    The jump combination may consist of two (2) or three (3) jumps.
    There must be at least two (2) spiral positions of each partner three (3) seconds long each. In case this requirement is not fulfilled, the spiral sequence will have no value.
    The Spiral Sequence will always be awarded a fixed Base Value and evaluated by Judges in GOE only.
    How can they put so many disparate elements into a single proposal? Very weird.

    Also: What is the difference between the "Pattern Dance" and the "Short Dance"? Is the Pattern Dance just a new name for a CD? Will dancers have to have THREE different brand new programs created every dang year? What is the point of this? They should have just said "drop the CD for the major championship events," since that's what appears to be the intent. But now they have to created two "new" events?

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    Thank you for doing all these summaries, HisWeirness!

    Quote Originally Posted by HisWeirness View Post
    207, 208, and 209. Denmark/Finland/Sweden: All Skaters entered for ISU Championships must have participated in at least one International junior or senior competition on the ISU list during the 24 months preceding the Championships.
    I don't like that. Under that rule, (I think) Denney/Barrett wouldn't have been able to go to Worlds last year (09). And I don't think Agnes Zawadzki would have been able to go to JW this year, right?

    This could have a chilling effect on new pairs and dance teams, esp at the Junior level. There are enough barriers to developing pairs teams as it is, I don't think the ISU needs to make it more difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Not being able to perform in Juniors after performing twice in Seniors
    Is this the Ashley Wagner rule? I think the idea is good, but the restriction should take effect the following season. So a skater could compete on the GP and go to JW in the same season, but that would be their last Junior comp. As it is being proposed, it would make things difficult for smaller countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbie S View Post
    Is this the Ashley Wagner rule?
    Oh, skaters competing at Junior Worlds after competing in senior championships or fall events has a long history. I bet you can find several examples every year since whenever (1980s?) they raised the junior upper age limit from 16 to 18/19. So I wouldn't name it after any one skater.

    And what happens to skaters who were 14 as of July 1 and allowed to compete on the GP or in senior B events but not at ISU championships. If they don't change that age overlap, then it won't be worth it for those skaters to do (two) senior fall competitions, even if they were undefeated in juniors the previous year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilJen View Post
    Also: What is the difference between the "Pattern Dance" and the "Short Dance"?
    Pattern dance replaces "compuslory". Short Dance is the new combination of a pattern dance and required elements set to a theme or rhythm.

    Will dancers have to have THREE different brand new programs created every dang year?
    No. All dance events will consist of 2 segments depending on their level. Novice and below will still skate a pattern dance and a free dance. Junior and Senior will skate a short dance and a free dance. The only teams that would need to have 3 different programs, are those that are competing at both the junior and senior level.

    What is the point of this?
    Instead of dropping either the CD or the OD to bring dance in line with the 2 event format, they just combined them into one 2 minute, 50 second "short dance". For this season, it's been reported that the Juniors will need to incorporate 2 consecutive patters on the Viennese Waltz into the choreography for the short dance. Seniors will need to incorporate 1 pattern of the Golden Waltz. That's in addition to the required elements. Teams select their own music and it's been discussed in another thread that the ISU is hoping for a Dancing with the Stars type of format to attract more casual fans to that segment of the ice dance event.

    In a kind of related vein, US Figure Skating is introducing a proposal to change one of the compulsories for the Juvenile, Intermediate and Novice level. Starting next season, teams at that level will be able to select their own music for one of the compulsories drawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammi View Post
    In a kind of related vein, US Figure Skating is introducing a proposal to change one of the compulsories for the Juvenile, Intermediate and Novice level. Starting next season, teams at that level will be able to select their own music for one of the compulsories drawn.
    But they'll do the same patterns as they do now?

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