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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    In my armchair analysis I think it's quite the opposite. I don't think it's about power at all. I think it's a low self-esteem issue. He could be intimidated by his wife's accomplishments and grace and feels he doesn't deserve her, so he cheated on her with someone who he feels is more on the same level as him. He may feel that Sandra is way out of his league and couldn't take the pressure anymore so he went for one who he could handle.

    Again...armchair analysis.
    Or maybe the mistress brought excitements to his life, was willing to fullfill his fantasies and/or did things with/to him that he wouldn't have dared to brought up with Sandra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    Or maybe the mistress brought excitements to his life, was willing to fullfill his fantasies and/or did things with/to him that he wouldn't have dared to brought up with Sandra.
    Yeah, there's that possibility, too. The ole Variation on a Virgin/Whore Theme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Clearly, no!

    Is it a power thing with these guys? I mean, I never heard of this guy before Sandra married him. Same with Eric Benet and Halle - I barely knew who he was. They get a woman who is more famous and accomplished than they are and...they cheat? And clearly cheat with women who are beneath their wives in terms of class and accomplishments!!

    I truly feel bad for Sandra; she's a good actress and is well-liked in Hollywood 'cause she's so sweet and nice.

    Rex, I am from Milwaukee and I know Mr. Benet and his family, not very well but I've met him, his daughter and Halle on a few occasions(my cousin went to high school with him).

    I do not condone his infidelity, however to my understanding she was not sitting at home baking cookies and her behavior in the marriage was not "stellar" at times. From what I saw, it was good time in their courtship, he was DEVOTED to her and loved her very much.

    Now Eric has been for the most part very respectful to her since their divorce. To my understanding, he could say alot of stuff that would not look to kindly to her in the eyes of some.

    My point, we as the public, don't really know how many famous people are behind closed doors in their ordinary life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orbitz View Post
    Or maybe the mistress brought excitements to his life, was willing to fullfill his fantasies and/or did things with/to him that he wouldn't have dared to brought up with Sandra.
    Maybe Sandra is frigid, maybe they had an agreement as long as it was "kept" secret as to what he or she does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    I do not condone his infidelity, however to my understanding she was not sitting at home baking cookies and her behavior in the marriage was not "stellar" at times.
    Thank god my husband takes responsibility for his own behavior and his fidelity doesn't depend on how "stellar" I happen to be.

    You marry a human being, not a cookie-baking automaton.
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    So, Eric Benet became a cheating sex addict because Halle wasn't baking cookies?

    Elin, take note. Bake cookies. Lots of cookies. And then just maybe Tiger will stop this obsession over sex with strippers and sluts. Because, you know, he can't possibly be responsible for his own behavior.

    Perhaps Halle, Elin, and Sandra can starting a baking club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    Maybe Sandra is frigid, maybe they had an agreement as long as it was "kept" secret as to what he or she does.
    That's like saying it's her fault he cheated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prancer View Post
    Thank god my husband takes responsibility for his own behavior and his fidelity doesn't depend on how "stellar" I happen to be.

    You marry a human being, not a cookie-baking automaton.
    I was trying to be nice. Eric has been dogged in the press for his infidelities and nothing has been said about her behavior and infidelities during their marriage. Why, because they decided that he would not speak to the press about this for the sake of her career.

    He has been protrayed as the bad guy in their marriage to the public. Its been protrayed like how dare he cheat on her or not want to be married to her, she the great Halle Berry. She shouldn't be put on a pedestal, she's a human being and she has issues like everyone else. They both cheated.

    Not everything that is printed the truth nor is it the entire story.

    You're right you marry a human being and human beings mess up. Either you deal with it in a marriage or you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB08822 View Post
    ??? He is a bad husband, not a bad father who deserves to lose his kids to his obviously troubled ex. I'm not defending what he did but I'm not going to pretend that he is an entirely bad person who should have his kids taken away and given to a woman currently in jail/prison/halfway house or something.
    A good father does not screw around with a girl who's Twitter handle is
    Ev-lCu-t and fancies herself a Nazi / porn star. If I'm the bio Mom and there is any chance that this piece of work will be within a mile of my child, momma bear is going to ANYTHING to keep this from happening. Character is character and should not be separated by good dad/bad hubby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anita18 View Post
    That's like saying it's her fault he cheated.
    Huh? If you accept or talk about your partner possibly having relations with others, is that cheating? I don't think it is.

    That was my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    Huh? If you accept or talk about your partner possibly having relations with others, is that cheating? I don't think it is.

    That was my point.
    What evidence is there at all that Sandra told him it was okay for him to have sex with other women? Why on earth are you going to such efforts to try to defend this guy? He cheats (and with a seriously messed up woman) and ends up hurting not only his wife, but his children, and you try to come up with ways to blame her? That's messed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    Huh? If you accept or talk about your partner possibly having relations with others, is that cheating? I don't think it is.

    That was my point.
    Sorry, I didn't quite understand it the first time.

    Still, that she's reportedly already moved out probably means there wasn't an agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatemommy View Post
    A good father does not screw around with a girl who's Twitter handle is
    Ev-lCu-t and fancies herself a Nazi / porn star. If I'm the bio Mom and there is any chance that this piece of work will be within a mile of my child, momma bear is going to ANYTHING to keep this from happening. Character is character and should not be separated by good dad/bad hubby.
    She only recently changed her twitter handle to Ev-lCu-t (since the story broke I believe) and he may have been clueless about her Nazi Photo shoot. My guess is his interest in her started and stopped with whether she gave head or not. And again, this "affair" she claims to have had could have been nothing more than some sexting and a blow job or two. It's kinda her word against his that there was any more to it than that. They both have HUGE motivation to lie so I tend to believe she at the very least embellished the truth to make it worth the $30,000 she got paid.

    If you think men who cheat should lose their kids then you believe there should be a lot of fatherless kids. Check Craigslist sometime - hundreds of married men in every city trying to hook-up. Irresponsible, yes, but not an automatic dis-qualifier for parenthood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    Not everything that is printed the truth nor is it the entire story.
    Yes, obviously not. I was responding to what YOU said, not to what was said about Halle Berry or anyone else in the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allskate View Post
    What evidence is there at all that Sandra told him it was okay for him to have sex with other women? Why on earth are you going to such efforts to try to defend this guy? He cheats (and with a seriously messed up woman) and ends up hurting not only his wife, but his children, and you try to come up with ways to blame her? That's messed up.
    I'm not trying to defend anyone. My point is that we do not know the whole story with him and Sandra's marriage. Maybe they do have some type of agreement like Monique and her husband.

    And I did not say I blame her, you jumped to conclusions and insinuated words I did not say.
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    The fact that she skipped out of the London premier of her movie, then packed up and left the house should tell us that's probably not the case. Those aren't the actions of a woman who okayed her hubby to sleep with someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uyeahu View Post
    She only recently changed her twitter handle to Ev-lCu-t (since the story broke I believe) and he may have been clueless about her Nazi Photo shoot. My guess is his interest in her started and stopped with whether she gave head or not. And again, this "affair" she claims to have had could have been nothing more than some sexting and a blow job or two. It's kinda her word against his that there was any more to it than that. They both have HUGE motivation to lie so I tend to believe she at the very least embellished the truth to make it worth the $30,000 she got paid.

    If you think men who cheat should lose their kids then you believe there should be a lot of fatherless kids. Check Craigslist sometime - hundreds of married men in every city trying to hook-up. Irresponsible, yes, but not an automatic dis-qualifier for parenthood.
    What I am saying is that if there is a parent willing to not expose the children to this crap, then they may be the better parent to raise minor children. A friend of mine's ex was so caught up in his lies of fooling around that he smacked his 12 y/o daughter in the face. Public school nurse saw the bruise and reported it to CPS. He is now being charged with child abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by topaz View Post
    I'm not trying to defend anyone. My point is that we do not know the whole story with him and Sandra's marriage. Maybe they do have some type of agreement like Monique and her husband.

    And I did not say I blame her, you jumped to conclusions and insinuated words I did not say.
    No, these are things you are insinuating. Take a look at your posts in this thread today. They're mostly about trying to put the blame on the women. There is not one iota of evidence that Sandra agreed that her husband could have sex with other women, and his own apology and her moving out is pretty clear evidence suggesting otherwise. (Newsflash: Monique's situation is not the default situation -- most women do not happily agree that their husbands can have sex with other women.) So, for you to suggest that she agreed to him having sex with other women (or maybe deserves to have him cheat because she is frigid) is an effort by you to insinuate that this situation is somehow her doing.

    It's part of a string of posts in which you try to defend cheating men and cast blame on their wives. From suggesting that Halle should have been home baking cookies to suggesting that Sandra Bullock might have said it was okay for Jesse to do what he did -- even though he himself is saying he is to blame for hurting his wife and kids. You're bending over backwards to suggest that these women are to blame and that the cheating men really aren't all that bad. Nobody has to imagine anything to get that from your posts. That's what you are communicating with your own words. And that's messed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatemommy View Post
    What I am saying is that if there is a parent willing to not expose the children to this crap, then they may be the better parent to raise minor children. A friend of mine's ex was so caught up in his lies of fooling around that he smacked his 12 y/o daughter in the face. Public school nurse saw the bruise and reported it to CPS. He is now being charged with child abuse.
    How exactly does that relate to this scenario?
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    ^when you are so caught up in your own lies and crap to screw around that your children are a second thought. This piece of crap was pretending to sing in the church while courting 10 other women and marrying one that has already had 5 husbands. My point being when your sex life becomes more important than the children you have conceived, the children's lives suffer. It may not be blatantly obvious, but the kids pay a heavy price for their parent's only concern is their next hook up and then trying to cover it up or not blow their cover.
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